But from what I hear in my scanner groups, theres not much left on UHF/VHF

Case in point, i found some local band crew members using shitfangs and they were on the local vhf Sheriff’s freq since they have no idea what freq is what.

Lol

Luckily the sheriff just switched to 800 p25 and they weren’t running any PL tone so if there was any backup radios on they wouldn’t have heard them.

NYPD is all analog and non-encrypted fyi...

Yeah, I find people on my itinerant channels all the time

That’s just the nature of itinerants

But they give you a legal place to run encryption

Kinda, but it's always idiots with chinafangs

I thought you still couldn't run encryption on business band?

You can run encryption anywhere it’s not specifically excluded

Like ham, MURS, FRS all exclude it

Right

Like i mentioned, we licensed a bunch of itinerants across low band, vhf, and uhf. We specified analog narrowband emissions, p25 emissions, trbo, and NXDN. Once you go to digital modulation adding encryption is easy.

I wonder if I can change any of that, it'll be time to renew in the next 2 years

Encryption on analog used to be hard and sounded like dogshit so not many places used it, and only for special situations. Now with digital it’s all bits anyway so re-ordering them per an algorithm is peanuts

That’s why so much public safety is going enc, because nobody wants to be heard and it’s easy of not free these days with new gear.

Yeah, I don't really know shit about encryption, I always thought you had to be on the 700-900 bands etc.

Yeah you can do it now, file an amendment to the license to add the right designators

Sounds like I need to dig up all my paperwork

Just like with phones and apps, you never want to say something without using encryption. And that’s why the boojfengs aren’t going to cut it.

The business doesn't exist anymore, so hopefully that won't be an issue

Nah fcc don’t ask for business license or nothing

I could've swore I had to provide that, but it's been almost 10 years

Also, all this talk about what freqs to use, ham or FRS/MURS etc...that’s the last place you’d find me. When the shtf those will all be full of dipshits with walmart radios and hams trying to hold nets and dumb shit. For real ops, you need to get away from the public areas that can be easily jammed. Those are good places to practice and learn radio, but are the first place I’d look for fuckers if i was a fed.

Anyone here have a CB?

We need you for a minute.

I prefer to hide in plain sight. Slip between a couple of normal police channels, or modify the radio for out of band and slip just outside the accepted band limits.

I am a long time cb’er

Alright so: we’re looking for connections with truckers.

Channel 19

Channel 19 on CB?

Yep thats the trucker channel

@redbeard yeah, that's why I'm looking at the APX... but I'm not seeing too many multiband models on Ebay

@EDDSkitz yeah APX 8000 or 8500 are pretty new and not as many out there. 7000 and 7500 are a little easier to find

Oh, so those are the multiband models and not the cheap 4k?

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ that is the usual channel but be aware that many new drivers are foreigners that don’ta speaka the eeenglish and don’t even have radios. I’ve heard some companies don’t allow them to be installed any more either due to dumb ass drivers fucking up the wiring

> Oh, so those are the multiband models and not the cheap 4k?
@EDDSkitz yeah 7000 is dual band and 8000 is multi. 7500 and 8500 are the matching mobiles. All others are single band

Yeah, I got rid of my CB's... they are barely used anymore and I'm right on the northeast corridor

Used to have a 100 foot base antenna and an amplifier that turned all the TV screens red 😂

I don’t hear much on the cb where i am but there are some dedicated guys that still hang on 38 LSB around here. A little south of me a bunch still hang out on there like the redneck internet CB used to be.