Message from @[MS]WebMDemt

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2020-05-06 16:51:48 UTC  

Just pressure bandage? Or??

2020-05-06 16:57:06 UTC  

@[CA] SoyBoi pack it with hemostatic gauze

2020-05-06 17:24:25 UTC  

Hemostatic gauze and then wrap.

2020-05-06 18:19:03 UTC  

I was a combat medic in the army and am trained on TC3, prolonged field care, field sanitation, disease prevention, fluid resuscitation and some invase interventions as well as pharmacology

2020-05-06 18:22:19 UTC  

18D?

2020-05-06 18:22:33 UTC  

Or just a dedicated 68W?

2020-05-06 18:24:32 UTC  

68W who was blessed enough to sit through some whiskey one training and also held the role of utilizing higher levels of care in the field. Had a good PA and spent all my time on the line with both army and the marines

2020-05-06 18:32:29 UTC  

I see a lot of conversation in here about emergency medical but not a whole lot about what happens after the X, so it is my duty to introduce it to y'all. Since it's a broad topic, I'll start simply with the next thing, evacuation

2020-05-06 18:33:28 UTC  

Well, yes, after CUF and TFC is EVC, but during the situation that we may find ourselves in, EVAC will be few and far between.

2020-05-06 18:33:55 UTC  

I’m attempting to set up some sort of EVAC guideline/SOP for the guys I plan on helping.

2020-05-06 18:42:48 UTC  

> Well, yes, after CUF and TFC is EVC, but during the situation that we may find ourselves in, EVAC will be few and far between.
@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ I have to disagree with you there. There is TACEVAC and CASEVAC

2020-05-06 18:43:40 UTC  

We'll most likely use TACEVAC. The difference between the two is that CASEVAC is a standard medical platform and TACEVAC is anything that moves

2020-05-06 18:44:54 UTC  

Any scenario we find ourselves in that requires the utilization of TC3 should also include immediately breaking contact. Because of that, like you said, evac sops need to be established as well as a well planned evac route

2020-05-06 18:45:31 UTC  

You have 15 minutes to engage and gtfo anyway. Shoot and scoot

2020-05-06 18:50:25 UTC  

My primary problem is not the availability of TASEVAC, it’s simply the unavailability of higher echelons of care for us to resort to. Sure, we can get them to a safe house, but we will not be able to treat much surgically.

2020-05-06 18:53:19 UTC  

Yes, EVAC routes need to be planned prior to every mission to ensure medical care can be given easily and that we know the plan when casualties are present.

2020-05-06 18:56:00 UTC  

But what about access to surgical intervention?

2020-05-06 19:03:43 UTC  

Hospitals will treat regardless of combatant status

2020-05-06 19:06:39 UTC  

Hippocratic oath baby

2020-05-06 19:14:57 UTC  

@[MS]WebMDemt your username is hilarious 😂 but hospitals will also bring cops, which should be considered

2020-05-06 19:17:24 UTC  

@Crye_Salesman that is true but you’d be surprised how many people in healthcare are ready to boog. Field hospitals/safe houses are a high potential if it comes that far

2020-05-06 19:17:38 UTC  

Hospitals and the feds will work together

2020-05-06 19:17:43 UTC  

Safe houses in my opinion are a good choice.

2020-05-06 19:17:53 UTC  

The feds plan to ignore Geneva con as well

2020-05-06 19:18:14 UTC  

But finding personnel who know surgical procedures is another task

2020-05-06 19:18:25 UTC  

Facts to surgical

2020-05-06 19:19:53 UTC  

I know 2 or 3

2020-05-06 19:20:03 UTC  

Vets can also do a lot

2020-05-06 19:27:42 UTC  

True but getting them to help us

2020-05-06 20:20:26 UTC  

Logistics.

2020-05-06 20:21:48 UTC  

Initially taking a care point and command would be important. I cant take any of this seriously unless there's a full thought plan.

2020-05-06 20:23:08 UTC  

Its not only combat injuries that would take people out. Talking about combat requires total thought of care from point of contact to recovery

2020-05-06 20:23:46 UTC  

What about medical emergencies? This isn't only about trauma.

2020-05-06 20:25:53 UTC  

Agreed but the current thinking of medical care is small skirmishes stemming from protests. What you’re speaking of would be an all out civil war scenario which is highly unlikely.

2020-05-06 20:27:00 UTC  

Bullet holes are bullet holes.

If you're going to try and take me to a vet to stitch me up after I get shot in the leg. Fat chance.

2020-05-06 20:27:11 UTC  

1. Pain meds. Absolutely important.

2020-05-06 20:27:28 UTC  

2. Antibiotics for infections

2020-05-06 20:28:19 UTC  

Vets have both. Ketamine is big in equine medicine. Lots of preppers stock up fish antibiotics

2020-05-06 20:31:38 UTC  

Okay. Yeah. Drugs have to come from somewhere. For small amounts pencil whipping works.

2020-05-06 20:32:01 UTC  

Deep surgical things would need more than a vet imo

2020-05-06 20:32:18 UTC  

surgery in general shouldn't be left to a vet, again, imo