@-A They lie.

And then double down when called out with evidence in hand.

Then they wipe their mouths and say they did nothing wrong.

Ooof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhLd18Xg6x0

THIEVES! LIARS!

GREAT TUNE

ALL ONE NEEDS FROM MINISTRY IS THE LIVE EP

Yeah!

Wow, this is some premie Punk shit. They sound like Brit Punks from the seventies and eighties.

Sorry, not quite as schooled on this shit as I should be. My grandfather liked it and I went more Goth.

INFLUENCE CONFIRMED BY GUITARIST'S NEXT PROJECT

MINISTRY WAS A BRIDGE

BETWEEN METALHEADS, PUNKS, INDUSTRIAL AND NORMAL INDIE ROCKERS

PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE OWNED THAT LP

BUT THE COOL KIDS

HAD THE VHS TAPE

OF THE LIVE EP

THOSE WERE LIKE GOLD

Kind of like how in my heyday the cool kids had God was in The TV and the original Spooky Kids vids and LP's. I don't know how you feel about teh Marilyn, though.

Don't get me started on the NIN fanbois. They really degenerated after their late 90's album.

IMO NIN went shit after pretty hate machine

You didn't like Downward Spiral? Or the Fragile?

Not so much. No.

That was the soundtrack of my teen years road trips. I guess we didn't know what good music was. At least Type O Negative was still together and Pete Steele was alive and kicking.

Here's one I'm sure Brett likes too lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1cRGVaJF7Y

and Nitzer Ebb, etc lol

@-A I was heavy in to punk in most my HS years tbh. I crossed over between punk, Beastie Boys, early Metalica, etc

Interesting time in music

I agree now that I am older and Outside of Society. Where I want to be. My younger years were spent listening to what I wasn't supposed to, though.

LOL same here. I left home early though, so I had little to stop my exploration

God, what I wouldn't have given to have just been able to work in a factory, garage or wherever in my last two years of high school and get the fuck out. I was rather frustrated around 17 and 18 and strangely, nobody understood that I wanted a life of my own. I had other kids saying to me "But kids our age don't know how to be grown ups yet."

Nobody would hire under 18 save for very underpaid retail. At least is led to experience and a job history.

Yeah. That's why at 18 I went to the military. lol

Really? My father, until just recently, was in the 44th Medcom. He strictly forbade recruiters from talking to any of his kids. To this day, he dislikes what the military has become and is the primary reason (other than wanting Hillary behind bars) he voted for Trump.

He would ride recruiters' asses like a bull rider if they stepped on his toes. Being able to correct over-ranking military surgeons went to his head a tad.

Can't say I blame him. Recruiters are the lowest form IMO.

I see.

from a colleague, a response to me saying i want to protect my family from hoards of fanatic leftists: "If you are busy being a virtuous person and understanding that human beings are innocent people regardless of how their mind and spirit is shaped and those people want to destroy you then so be it. It is not for us to save ourselves....but it is my feeling that if you are living a righteous life you will not find yourself in a position where harm will come to you. This is my opinion." - playing along with this belief system, i ask how do you know what virtue/righteousness is? the response: "It is ingrained in you....you just know whats right in your soul. its part of your makeup... some choose to adhere to it and some choose to ignore it.." - how convenient eh? of course he doesn't consider it convenient. it's apparently very difficult to do whatever makes you feel good. he doesn't consider himself a christian cuz he's not into labels man.

I REMEMBER FRONT 242

ONE OF MY USERS (ON BBS) WAS WAY INTO THAT BAND