Message from @Nester
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There is a lot of filler in stuff like Wagner.
It's really a soundtrack for an opera.
With motifs....
Like a score.
But such a model wouldn't necessarily help metal, as that youthful energy, mostly irretrievable in old age, is vital to it.
Depends.
Some old guys still have it
Like?
Like the Satan guys.
They just go nuts
I'd perhaps only count Summoning and Burzum.
Alternating between nwobhm and wank every album every 5-10 years
Varg lsot it
Though their later work is much different from their old work
And isn't metal.
Summoning didn't and is kinda metal.
Sammath
The Finns. Who are totally nuts.
Sammath is the most legitimate example.
Sammath changes his style every release though
Burzum and Summoning mellowed with age
Black metal -> brutal death -> zyklon b metal -> black metal rust in peace twin guitar wank -> blizzard beasts part 2
there's plenty of bad classical
There is a ton.
especially relative to a composers own output
Even from the 1700s
People paid for it to
Yeah, @Ꜻnnihilation
Beethoven wrote a bunch of middling atuff
Paid to go see lame Symphonies and quartets
As they were bored on a Saturday
even the romantic "ultimate high art will nature etc" stuff is silly much of the time
I'm mainly thinking about how the metalguys almost exclusively make their best stuff while 18-25
That's mostly when they get to express it.
influential/groundbreaking stuff usually corresponds to an artist's debut
Some get to express it later.
THEY DO BEST WITH NO SKIN IN THE GAME
MEANING
Like the czech black metal guys
THEY ARE NOT INVESTED IN THE HOPES OF OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BAND