The fact that they *preach* does not make them traditional

@OJneg popular music all died. Rock died in the late 80s when it assimilates with vocal pop ulfully, rap around the same period with a few underground producers otherwise for the same period, jazz in the late 70s and early 80s when jazz schools started, classical became performance art when the last crop of composers from the 50s-70s started dying, metal is mostly dead except for the extreme underground due to beer metallers and scenesters. Punk is deader than dead for 20 years.

lol @ how gabberhangout is p dead after brett leaves

They are explicitly untraditional

they deny the existing tradition

That is the problem

It can't persist without the support of the saudi state

Saudi state and their ideology - globalized theistic bourgeoisie dictatorship

The Empire of mediocricity and levelling

In that sense I suppose I completely agree

Will fall sooner than it establishes itself

the more extreme jihadi types of Salafism are beginning to be considered to be Kharjites

Islam won't solve anything, especially run by mediocre, actually, less than mediocre people

People who convert to Islam will be weaklings and nobodies

The deprived and those who have lost the sense of dignity

If Islam were to be a solution, great people would have to convert

sure

Submissive, meek

Hol up

A solution in terms of worldly ends that is

@Death Strike's Bat it's marxist propos tho

Europe would have to accept Islam

if it was just degeneracy

rather than have it imposed demographically

you be sayin we wuz Sultanz n sheeeit

then it wouldn't have the purpose of subverting the dominant culture

that you could be and that it would help

the current situation

@OJneg it's really the industry ran itself tothe ground.

Christianity is also an option

In the mid 90s

but I personally think it has been harmed too much

in the minds and hearts of the west

still, if possible it would be great

a christian revival, but not simply religious

The rise of mediocricity, and mediocre, obscure people cannot conceal itself behind any mask, it always pops up

but a spiritual revival which leads to a new understanding and appreciation

a pagan christianity in a sense

You can cover it in any shade, Islam included, and it will still bring disaster

add the vitality to christianity

@fallot yeah the Saudis need to find salafism to make it a thing