Message from @fallot

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2017-02-19 01:16:48 UTC  

@The Enlightened Shepherd are you a Christian?

2017-02-19 01:17:00 UTC  

Some of them are actually pious, good behaving men, but play the tune of the underworld thanks to their ignorance

2017-02-19 01:17:02 UTC  

No

2017-02-19 01:17:10 UTC  

What do you mean by the forces of the underworld

2017-02-19 01:17:25 UTC  

Is this metaphor only

2017-02-19 01:17:33 UTC  

The forces opposed to the forces of order

2017-02-19 01:17:35 UTC  

Islamic shirk misunderstands Christian theology

2017-02-19 01:17:41 UTC  

As do most non Christians.

2017-02-19 01:17:54 UTC  

Christians are not considered to be mushrikeen

2017-02-19 01:18:04 UTC  

however, it isn't a misunderstanding

2017-02-19 01:18:04 UTC  

In Christianity god is human and God.

2017-02-19 01:18:09 UTC  

the Trinity is a mystery

2017-02-19 01:18:13 UTC  

There are countless pious Christians who are helping and aiding the decline with their nonsense

2017-02-19 01:18:16 UTC  

It's not a mystery....

2017-02-19 01:18:20 UTC  

it isn't something explainable

2017-02-19 01:18:48 UTC  

They explained it in theological terms. Modern people can't understand it.

2017-02-19 01:18:53 UTC  

You can make up some convoluted or even convincing explanation

2017-02-19 01:19:04 UTC  

anything that cannot be explained simply

2017-02-19 01:19:07 UTC  

has not been explained

2017-02-19 01:19:08 UTC  

It's 3 into 1 with two nature's.

2017-02-19 01:19:25 UTC  

you can write, but it won't make any sense really, in the end

2017-02-19 01:19:30 UTC  

and I am very sympathetic to the idea

2017-02-19 01:19:45 UTC  

I looked a lot for real justification, because I found it lame

2017-02-19 01:19:54 UTC  

how muslims would reductively criticize christians for this

2017-02-19 01:20:14 UTC  

but all I found is it really is just a mystery, and that's fine

2017-02-19 01:20:21 UTC  

the rest is sophistry

2017-02-19 01:20:21 UTC  

The mysteries of any faith, are not there to be intellectualized upon

2017-02-19 01:20:30 UTC  

yeah, I appreciate that

2017-02-19 01:20:37 UTC  

Any scientific explanation of them only profanes their real purpose

2017-02-19 01:20:46 UTC  

it isn't so black and white

2017-02-19 01:20:55 UTC  

an explanation need not be "scientific" by modern standards

2017-02-19 01:21:19 UTC  

A ritual itself, hence the mystery, is the central object of veneration

2017-02-19 01:21:26 UTC  

the triune god image in christianity has no explanation at all really

2017-02-19 01:21:33 UTC  

The part of religion that is "sacred"

2017-02-19 01:21:38 UTC  

yes I understand

2017-02-19 01:21:40 UTC  

however

2017-02-19 01:21:50 UTC  

here also, there are shades

2017-02-19 01:21:54 UTC  

And hence dictates certain sense of distance from the followers, humility if you will

2017-02-19 01:22:07 UTC  

sure

2017-02-19 01:22:13 UTC  

it should be acknowledged as a mystery I think

2017-02-19 01:22:17 UTC  

and left at that