the ground is still the same

life and death are both still the same

what do you reckon changed?

@diversity_is_racism would say the enlightenment (tm)

The herding nature of people in the abstract

tech

duh

i'd wager reformation had the negative side effect of instilling salvation through belief

instead of salvation through suffering

as suffering is endemic to life itself

reformation divorced nature from the divine

I've had a couple of Christians open up in the past, people I respected

They said earth is hell (paraphrasing)

But the word "hell" was utilized

Being unhappy with the basic tenets of their lives

Coming to a conclusion that existence here is some kind of punishment

that describes the 9-5 life pretty well

That's profane

It's tenets btw goaty

Thanks

Broke the noon rule

I find life joyous but I see why some might conclude that

I find some aspects of life joyous

Cesar Franck

I probably object to the use of punishment

Otherwise I'm bored often

It's more like a process

I don't agree with asceticism in general

Like the Asians practice

To see it as a punishment confuses ends for means

Yeah

Or means for ends rather

I got u

I think this is a lower grade of reality; the intelligible

Lower than which others?

Sensible

Gut bacteria

The will

Synthetic a priori

Etc

I think in a way you are praising chaos above order