"pretends to like despised icon just to make a friend in this dark and lonely world"

where is the music that touches the heart and rends the soul

and changes your life

nowhere

it may look ridiculous to you to take this that seriously vigilance, I dont know

but that's where I'm coming from

you've never heard liturgy?

and that's where metal comes from too

this kind of music doesn't come from people wanting to have a good metal time

i disagree with metal being 100% serious

I just don't see a substantial difference between you and the average metalhead I've run into

it's good at pretending to be serious

I think at some level

Except you're more thought out

most people into metal, genuinely so

feel something isn't quite right

but are unable to express it

even in their own thoughts

and they get talked down by the people who dont see anything wrong

and that includes the creators

when the atmosphere was conducive, a lot could

not that the atmosphere is the primary problem

The problem is most people at metal shows aren't into metal anymorem

I have seen it so many times.

That's more a symptom I think

of whatever is the problem

When before Incantation used to play for 30 people

And the iron maiden fans would come out to.

I sometimes read older metal archives reviews

and you can see, while these people dont have much of a clue

they are oriented in the right direction

@fallot pretty sure what you said is just yours and nesters experience on forums

they dont have great taste, but wont eat shit

Literally you two saying that shit and getting reactions

@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ from the DMU/ANUS perspective, what you are saying is the exception

i still remember going to see rottrevore play with leprosy and meeting jared lubawski when he was playing in rottrevore

but you are presenting your view as unexceptional

it's ironic

and this big fat dude was there

who kept moshing with like one other dude

so you are in a "crowd" where what I am saying is near consensus