I'll debate you if you are up for it

hahahahahaahahahahahahaha

I haven't heard a reason from you

Up for it

who

Lol

me?

a friendly bout of intellectual fisticuffs

let me just get my chess clock so we can get to debating

are you MAN enough

because talking in an informal setting in the backyard clearly wasn't enough

i wonder what the difference is

no i don't

It would be with a functional human

pussy

But you're more of a troll

You don't say things, you laugh at what is said by others

when we try to say stuff

it's met with scoffs

yeah i'm definitely way stupider than you and say less things and there's less of a point to my existence because i don't agree that starcraft replays are art

Can you explain why they aren't?

yeah i already have

remember

DO YOU REMEMBER LUDVIG

No, I don't

we spent our days at the weird kid table.

waiting

biding our time

when we tried to warn you

you didn't listen

@Hagel if you saw the huge smile of a child when they see you, their dad, come home you'd know that the world is fundamentally alright and beautiful.

@vry_o hoarding XP

how about i post our discussion and you can apologize for calling me a troll

not because i want an apology

while we spared our mana pools

but because i think it would be funny for you to apologise

you carelessly wasted yours

on spells and recharging health

mastered the blockchain

it's just more abstract art
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
Is Deus Ex better than brood war storyline? I still think yes but I think it's definitely better than Koreans
I don't think that interactivity that does not accumulate to anything can be said to be art
Unless you mean performance art
Kvädare - 01/23/2017
1: The game can be a painting, and can look good
2: If dancing is an art, so is Brood War (and martial arts)
3: Setting up variables to make for a certain kind of game is an abstract art
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
dancing is not an art, it is an activity(edited)
i would say the same for martial arts
Kvädare - 01/23/2017
Why is painting an art, and Brood War not? You can save the replay of a game you played, and it can be magnificent
Unarmed violence is definitely an art
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
because the painting requires dynamic, original strokes whereas keypresses and clicks are constrained and necessarily reactive
you could argue that the efficiency of armed violence makes it more artistic, which is why i am reticient to say violence at all is an art
are sports art?
Kvädare - 01/23/2017
There is an infinite amount of moves to make in a real time game, like there is an infinite amount of co-ordinates to move your hand to when painting
Both have limitations; the canvas, and the rules of the game
and both have infinite possibilities within their limitations(edited)
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
They are dissimilar as the context is contrived explicitly by others in games, whereas you could argue at best only that derivative art is implicitly contrived by others
Kvädare - 01/23/2017
Yes, they are dissimilar
but they are both art

spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
Their dissimilarity is that one is creative and the other is not
Kvädare - 01/23/2017
Of course both are creative
Both include creativity and problem solving
By using an existing system to achieve a desired result (or experimenting and seeing what happens)
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
One has the ability to refer to anything, whereas another has only the ability to refer to itself
Kvädare - 01/23/2017
Different art forms describe different things
Music is best at describing the will itself, but can not describe mundane details
Painting can describe mundane details, but is inferior at will
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
What does a Starcraft replay describe that a painting cannot?
I can think of many things that a painting can describe but that a Starcraft replay could not
Kvädare - 01/23/2017
Insight into certain parts of a human's mind
It's definitely a higher form of art than architecture
spacepolenta - 01/23/2017
How is that expressed by the process of creation itself in that case? I don't see how you could texture a game replay with sufficient insight as to express emotions more complex than a dynamic of intensity.
Kvädare - 01/23/2017
The game itself captures struggle between minds better than many other art forms usually can