That's my point. Shame, cure, etc is somewhat irrelevant. Segregate them from the tribe regardless of source as they inherently don't belong. Will they go underground? Sure - they do now. More underground? Perhaps. They can have their own gay pirate island (or whatever) while the rest of the tribe doesn't suffer their downside, which is pretty much what both tribes want anyway.

In short - assimilation doesn't/hasn't/will never work. Time to cleave.

@diversity_is_racism leftists need to read the the gulag archipelago which proves that Stalin was merely better at doing what Marx and Lenin had laid out than anyone else.

And that liberalism and the ideals of the French Revolution will lead the sheep towards ideologies of idiocy and murder.

Homosexuality is inherently parasitic and cannot function in separation

Solzhenitsyn on the French Revolution, Jewish Marxists vs Zionists, etc. Is great too.

but beyond that, that's good sense @MRB

it becomes an excuse for tolerance, separation

"I don't want to deal with this anymore"

which is fair enough

The problem is gay culture is more toxic than homosexuality itself.

debateable, but there is no doubt it is toxic

and part of a greater madness

acceptance of homosexuality, feminism, political correctness, these are all related phenomena

preference of the other to the ingrou

hating the ingroup

valourization of various kinds of deformity or sickness

these are all basically insanity, or good intentions gone madly astray

someone I read described it as Justice vs. Mercy

without one, the other becomes unbearable

liberalism being a kind of pathology of Mercy should not invite a too-heavy dose of Justice

rather the good intentions should be channeled into positive ends via reframing

it is important to consider also how this has happened in western society

what's the big change

is it the scale of society? industrialization? godlessness? enlightenment idealism? conspiracy?

dysgenics?

"Homosexuality is inherently parasitic and cannot function in separation" - @fallot. I'm reaching for social/scientific proof of this in a way. There is much with the GQ that's unproven/3rd rail topic we just don't know bc verboten.

just from a social perspective

how would a community of homosexuals function?

as an aside, we cannot expect serious scientific appraisal of homosexuality

as this is part of the insanity

all the answers are already there as far as what needs to be done

the past holds the key, regaining that mindset

not necessarily doing the same things, but thinking about the problem the same way

How one would function? NMP - both sides allow for it now although one is the symbiote of the other.

one reason I don't agree with separation as it is in a sense tacit approval

Fair point.

then again, I'm for what works

and if it works, fair enough

I see it more of a rejection, but I see the approval through acknowledgement though.

maybe one could call it allowance instead