in what situation would the child accept divorce

But they are a good indicator for your ability to achieve your goals

How you feel isn't primary

I should get in touch with Cargest, drag in @Jim and form the UKs first Alt-Right Secret Society

still I'm not clear on what spiritually alive means

being religious

I thought I'd cut the nuance

hey i could design the logo

you can be the leader @Jim

What makes following your heart less of a whim in that circumstances

because it is oriented towards ends that are more than immediate, giving one the perspective to recognize what they really want out of life and giving that itself some basic justification

im a black pill at heart, more jim jones

get everyone to drink the coolaid

any intangible goal suffices for that

Does it not

Not any, but yes, in principle

why not any

it can't just be an intangible goal, it has to be a holistic ideal

I mean that being true explains the existence of secular religions or whatever you want to call them

to really transplant religion

there is no secular religion

there is one "secular" antireligion

no there have been more than a fee

Few

we've been over this

name one

No I'm just going to keep asking you questions

please?

I don't want to repeat another conversation

secularism is mostly humanism, which has its ties to christian ideas of utopia. or so john gray says

just one name

Progress is the contemporary one

its a perversion of christianity @Jim

take christian mercy and rub out god/its meaning from it

presto, humanism

without the consequence

yeah and that's happened plenty of other times

does principa discordia count

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEuYdIdY2w

never

Scrub the non-rationalistic stuff