That is pride without the exclusion of others. Just positive pride in being white. Without that it's fish in the barrel to shut down any movement by *name that -ism* hung on our neck.

like we may talk about restoring racial solidarity among whites

but what caused it to be weakened in the first place?

even if it was a top down thing, what made it suspectible to attack?

economic oppression, for one

people who cant afford to take care of themselves will become mentally ill

dont agree

other way round

poor people stay sane, rich people go crazy

http://web.archive.org/web/20100111142452/http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/nihilism.html

there is a deep, suicidal sickness in the west

ill check out the book

the number one symptom is not having kids, or not valuing having kids

or not caring about it

and you're going to take the whole world with you

im pretty convinced that humanitarianism is the cause of alot of the problems we have. our idea of progress

you're right, but that itself is a phenomenon that deserves further scrutiny

@Jim What precipitates that, though? Exploitable empathy by those capable?

but counter to that, the romans expanded without an idea of utopia

Or just altruism for the sake of itself?

im not entirely sure what you mean?

the reasoning for humanism itself?

Yeah.

Humanitarianism specifically. or did you mean humanism?

If you attribute anything to an idea, you have to also explain

from christianity, protestantism. reminants

why that idea has traction

what makes people accept it

once they do, why do they persist in it

the idea of humans on a timeline of progress, technology. morality. wellbeing.

I don't think that's enough, such an idea could result in a multitude of ends

what does progress have to do with tribal/racial solidarity

when these people say "progress"

they mean progress towards a certain end

they conflate it with progress full stop

because that's the only progress that their values allow

i mean, humanism = one day all humans will live together in one happy house

escape from suffering

basically idealism

nothing wrong with idealism

the problem is this idealism is sick and terrible