flat earth is confusing and takes a lot of time to understand

On a flat model one would see differences in the angle of the shadows on α1, α2, α3, so on

That angle can’t be specified on said 2d image

Usually I let most things slide because they’re pretty valid points, but this is one of the few where it really doesn’t work.

It works fine

what if earth is a donut

The sun is either to your east or to your west.

Or directly above you

You know I’m not trying to slam FE, Citizen, but I hope you also understand my point in regards to that specific image.

Depending on season. It will be further south or come further north a bit

There is nothing wrong with the image

It indicates both scenarios work

The season doesn’t have an incredible impact on the angle, though. Unless by some miracle you can get the first pillar to reliably be directly underneath the sun for the entire day.

Suppers

It doesnt work like that

My point exactly

You dont understand I guess

yo what is the gay agenda conspiracy

Yo

<#495783790367735828>-definitions @tragic_urie

@Wildrock hello

as a gay, i can tell you we do not homosexualize the culture

@Ætos it only needs to be above the first stick for 1 min to take a measure

theory ended

@tragic_urie never said you personally do

Theory not ended.

thats actually ridiculous but ok

Yeah

Agreed

With a divergent ray model, and more this has nothing to do with the earth model you choose, if the sun is offset from the initial pillar in any way, then the resulting shadows will have x and y components. That image can’t express any more than either x or y exclusively. Yes, it may take one minute, but if after that minute, one doesn’t notice changes in both the x and y components of the resulting shadow, the test can’t be taken to show anything of value.

???

The experiment lines up sticks perfect north south lines

It might as well be 2 d

Unless you do the experiment wrong

If the experiment only gives that result when the pillar is directly beneath the sun, then the experiment demonstrates little to no data.

I can say the same thing for the globe experiment

No.aetos

Go ahead

That's precisely what the experiment does is gives and result for the pillar underneath the Sun and then pillars of the exact same time away from the Sun

The result under the sun is no shadow

I’m only showing a flaw in the picture, not even the experiment itself, and whatever issues there are on the other side, I’d rather just hear about them than keep on trying to have us explain to each other these arguments.