not just good, but proliferate

spirit capable of reproducing, instead of dying off exponentially every generation

And it's not really strictly related with Islam

Although Islam does contribute to the sense of urgency to act

But even seculars in the middle east have this kind of setting in their minds in which the world isn't one big vacation spot

But there are big things going on and they feel like they are in the midst of it all

Life actually means something

One of the first female suicide bombers wasn't an Islamist at all for example

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sana%27a_Mehaidli

the secular types depend on the spirit of the culture they're surrounded by

they're influential in complimentary ways

in a way that doesn't deduct from the essence that drives the will to survive

I think wanton school shooters understand this all at once when they've reached adolescence and realize their future is a lot of shopping and working

I feel secularism and progressivism make people ideologically rootless

where smart dudes have to be teased with it all their lives

shopping and working

you know it's amazing, as I am doing psychiatry, how much they assess a person's mental health based on their ability to shop and work

if you're o ver 18 and you can shop and work, they think you are A-okay

if you are under 18 and you get good grades and plan to go to college, they think you are A-okay

mental health rating 5/5

as soon as you cannot or will not do those things, that's when you get locked up and injected with haldol in your thigh

there are two meanings for secularism, 1. secularism = atheism, 2. secularism = the refutation of the primacy of the priesthood and it's values in a society

the latter is positive only if this refutation means embracing a different kind of spirit, not embracing degeneracy as we have today

"you know it's amazing, as I am doing psychiatry, how much they assess a person's mental health based on their ability to shop and work" this is so true

@Deleted User 57835c2c Doesn't that mean a threshold for psych problems is simply lacking proof of the adaptation to societal "norms"?

Or rather the ability to adapt?

yes

that is exactly the situation

it's pretty horrifying

well, not even to adapt

you just are not allowed to live without being a worker bee who is a consumerist on the weekend

they say it's about adaptation but once a person hits the point where they are outside the job/shopping paradigm that is taken as evidence of horrifying life threatening maladaption

if a kid in psych doesn't want to go to college, they document them as having poor judgment

not wanting college is treated as a psychiatric risk factor

That, in itself, is insane.

?

Not wanting to go to college as a psych risk factor.

oh yes. lots of shit I have seen would chill your bones

I bet. I get that it's a risk factor only in the respect that stats correlate education levels to crime. It's logical. Still chilling.

The possibility there is to take multiple risk factors which may be of unrelated correlated results as a diagnosis.

Or a a base level, like you say, non adaptation of consumerism.