Message from @The Enlightened Shepherd

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2017-04-01 21:15:23 UTC  

Because all the millions killed in the east would have had to fall in the west instead

2017-04-01 21:15:28 UTC  

Soviet Union just fucked up Europe

2017-04-01 21:15:31 UTC  

They even counted on this scenario

2017-04-01 21:15:51 UTC  

Yes they didn't want war

2017-04-01 21:16:06 UTC  

That's what kid says when he must go do a chore "I don't want tooooo"

2017-04-01 21:16:24 UTC  

Reality is, consequences were clear

2017-04-01 21:16:36 UTC  

Consequences of lack of proper response to another German agression

2017-04-01 21:17:05 UTC  

i don't put the fault on them defense

2017-04-01 21:17:09 UTC  

but the fact is

2017-04-01 21:17:20 UTC  

It is well known that only complete fools get tricked with same trick twice (pre-emptive invasion through Belgium)

2017-04-01 21:17:21 UTC  

soviet union fucked up europe

2017-04-01 21:17:31 UTC  

Even greater and even more impossible fact

2017-04-01 21:17:32 UTC  

in fact, the fault is hitler's

2017-04-01 21:17:51 UTC  

is that British and France *planned in advance* that they will defend again in northern france and will repeat WW I

2017-04-01 21:17:56 UTC  

Which is utterly horrific

2017-04-01 21:18:02 UTC  

and deeper in fact, the fault is french's Traité de Versailles

2017-04-01 21:18:48 UTC  

You pledge to repeat the same completely flawed strategy because last time it ended with your pyrrhic victory

2017-04-01 21:18:51 UTC  

France didn't accept reality, tactitians were uncompetant

2017-04-01 21:18:55 UTC  

And partake no pre-emptive action yourself

2017-04-01 21:19:10 UTC  

It's par exellence the type of burreaucratic thinking common to Europeans

2017-04-01 21:19:15 UTC  

"stick with what worked last time"

2017-04-01 21:19:29 UTC  

Soviet Union is the result of all of that

2017-04-01 21:19:49 UTC  

Hitler-Stalin pact is the result of French and British incompetence

2017-04-01 21:20:28 UTC  

Which would have never happened have they only pledged to invade Germany as soon as it reoccuppied Rhineland, or mess with a neighbouring nation

2017-04-01 21:20:35 UTC  

All the beggining is Napoleon

2017-04-01 21:20:46 UTC  

like said @Salt

2017-04-01 21:20:58 UTC  

They only had to pledge to do so, because Hitler would've never did all he did if he didn't observe complete lethargy

2017-04-01 21:21:46 UTC  

Well, Napoleon was in many ways a better leader than what followed

2017-04-01 21:22:13 UTC  

He was ambitious yes, but his "acts" were always backed up by rifles and boots

2017-04-01 21:22:38 UTC  

He was distrustful of burreaucracy

2017-04-01 21:22:39 UTC  

in Hearths of Iron 4, i invade earth cause it's cool

2017-04-01 21:22:53 UTC  

in the real world, this is stupid

2017-04-01 21:22:57 UTC  

Hitler paid too

2017-04-01 21:23:06 UTC  

like many other empires

2017-04-01 21:23:15 UTC  

Napoleon never really invaded countries just like that

2017-04-01 21:23:34 UTC  

It was a complex, but not entirely outrageous series of consecutive vents

2017-04-01 21:23:36 UTC  

events *

2017-04-01 21:23:48 UTC  

He left all major monarchies intact

2017-04-01 21:24:00 UTC  

In fact, he created some more, like Italy

2017-04-01 21:24:25 UTC  

Napoleon wanted for himself dominant spot in Europe and he wasn't the first or last European to try to do so

2017-04-01 21:24:59 UTC  

Napoleonic wars were mostly defensive, but the consequence was the spread of 1789's ideas