you are naive

this, and anti-leftism, are the only two irreducible aspects

mass media isnt self destructing or cannibalizing

mass media is *organized*

you don't know.

no, you're naive my friend

they are not a loos network of shitposters

media is *organized* and has *agenda*

it's both

two things alt right DOESNT have

if you have agenda AND organization, you have a goal which is achievable

as gym motivation posters say, a goal without a plan is just a wish, and mass media is doing fine

their target audience are retards, and retards are a growing population

mass media organizations are not the mass media

this is a bigger phenomenon than that

yes, there are absolute agendas

and large scale power structures

the alt right is emerging as one of those

lentils1488

but ultimately, the environment is a chaotic one

you can see it even in the alt right's own development

it's bottom up

alt right is just shock value against people who need trigger warnings

bottom up, attacks "itself" etc.

same for leftism

people did not vote for donald because they thought he would be good, they voted for donald to spook the shit out of liberals, who they have grown to resent

my buddy says altright is the modern day equivalent of getting a tattoo to piss off your parents

alt right began in a top down fashion, but could only emerge in a bottom up way

@Deleted User 57835c2c , what you said doesn't have any contradiction in it

people did not vote for donald because they thought he would be good, they voted for donald to spook the shit out of liberals, who they have grown to resent

well that is important

spooking the shit out of liberals, which they resent, would be good wouldn't it

just going by your own premise

the few people running the actual thinktank places in altright, run by people like prozak and moldbug, are essentially one entity while the people who actually voted donald in are another

I do not think of them as the same at all

I agree

what remains to be seen, in my mind, is how much control the altright intelligentsia have over the donald fans

barely any

then that is bad news

nope

how is it not bad news that pepe memers and 4chandalas are running on their own instincts and not being led by smart people