Message from @fallot

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2017-04-11 16:37:09 UTC  

Why would you want to hear my opinions

2017-04-11 16:37:25 UTC  

I think you're an intelligent and thoughtful person

2017-04-11 16:37:37 UTC  

I'm not suspicious btw, only curious

2017-04-11 16:37:42 UTC  

I understand

2017-04-11 16:38:06 UTC  

you underwent a couple of layers of selection to end up in here

2017-04-11 16:38:15 UTC  

you're not just a random, even if we had not talked to date

2017-04-11 16:38:32 UTC  

"what kind of higher, permanent, rock solid truth are we talking about here"

2017-04-11 16:38:43 UTC  

I can only say that it is something not yet realized

2017-04-11 16:38:52 UTC  

I listened to your music too, so just on that basis you wouldn't be worthless

2017-04-11 16:38:59 UTC  

fair enough

2017-04-11 16:39:39 UTC  

I have a couple of ideas about music that need a bit more testing

2017-04-11 16:39:42 UTC  

music and personality

2017-04-11 16:39:46 UTC  

I think that Buddhist, Hermetic and other doctrines which say that such a realization is a moment of bliss, not an endless maintenance, make sense, and hence, I consider myself somebody who isn't there

2017-04-11 16:39:48 UTC  

I want to listen to music by a confirmed sociopath

2017-04-11 16:39:56 UTC  

that is good

2017-04-11 16:40:21 UTC  

how does one go further down that path

2017-04-11 16:40:26 UTC  

wherever it leads

2017-04-11 16:40:26 UTC  

define sociopathy

2017-04-11 16:41:14 UTC  

I won't right now, but I'll define a sociopath

2017-04-11 16:41:33 UTC  

a sociopath is a person who has no conscience, the primary problem of whom is never having formed a loving bond with another human being

2017-04-11 16:41:54 UTC  

further from the above are my own ideas

2017-04-11 16:42:16 UTC  

I agree with some psychiatrists in the earlier part of the 20th century and a couple of other people that humans create for themselves various "false selves"

2017-04-11 16:42:24 UTC  

I suppose you could call them identities too

2017-04-11 16:42:26 UTC  

or masks

2017-04-11 16:42:45 UTC  

these false selves are derived from an underlying true self

2017-04-11 16:42:48 UTC  

that may not be realized

2017-04-11 16:43:02 UTC  

but is nevertheless playing a big role, each "mask" is a subset of the true self in a way

2017-04-11 16:43:19 UTC  

a sociopath is someone who has no true self, has not developed one, or cannot access his true self in any way (theory)

2017-04-11 16:43:38 UTC  

due to the above issue, never having formed a loving bond with another human being

2017-04-11 16:43:42 UTC  

in a critical stage of development

2017-04-11 16:44:10 UTC  

usually that bond would be with a parent or parents (and a few more people for most healthy individuals)

2017-04-11 16:44:37 UTC  

For me, sociopathy has so far been, In my undestanding, defined by these two

2017-04-11 16:45:01 UTC  

1. Ability to understand how human emotions work, but not to genuinely display or posses them

2017-04-11 16:45:19 UTC  

(hence psychopaths/sociopaths are masters at deception)

2017-04-11 16:45:37 UTC  

2. Inability for any loyalties other than towards one self

2017-04-11 16:45:56 UTC  

both are indeed qualities possessed by the sociopath

2017-04-11 16:46:08 UTC  

except 1

2017-04-11 16:46:12 UTC  

needs a bit more nuance

2017-04-11 16:46:20 UTC  

a sociopath may be very capable indeed at displaying human emotions

2017-04-11 16:46:28 UTC  

3. Due to the above, and other cumulative effects, inclination towards destructive, violent behaviors (due to inability to perceive any sense of collective)

2017-04-11 16:46:42 UTC  

by displaying you mean faking