Message from @diversity_is_racism

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2017-04-15 19:46:10 UTC  

one thing that really bothers me about music ever since I have been alive is that being a musician is a combination of a kid's thing and a social media/salesman/panderer thing

2017-04-15 19:46:58 UTC  

I look at bands from 80s and earlier and they are grown ass men expressing their feelings through musical composition and performance, then 90s+ it is all 14 year olds doing garage bands

2017-04-15 19:47:08 UTC  

seen as a silly little kid thing to do

2017-04-15 20:03:56 UTC  

@diversity_is_racism your article on capitalism is noted

2017-04-15 20:05:13 UTC  

@diversity_is_racism "that's not real capitalism! it's corporatism! :("

2017-04-15 20:06:49 UTC  

I noticed an internal contradiction with your ideology though

2017-04-15 20:07:04 UTC  

"systems don't work" + "we support System X over System Y"

2017-04-15 20:07:29 UTC  

the main reason you could support capitalism from an internally consistent perspective is "it doesn't take a bureaucracy to administer"

2017-04-15 20:08:27 UTC  

"Re-framing this from a Right-wing perspective, fascism started with conservative intent, which was to preserve fundamental building blocks like the family and the nation. It did this by reversing the reversed order of civilization where we approve of something if it earns money, instead of finding out what we approve of and arranging society so that these good things earn money."

This is called socialism

2017-04-15 20:08:47 UTC  

send military police to go take away donald's toys and give them to better people

2017-04-15 20:09:09 UTC  

your whole "capitalism subservient to holistic ideals X, Y and Z" is called eurosocialism

2017-04-15 20:09:09 UTC  

@Deleted User 57835c2c "systems don't work" + "we support System X over System Y"

2017-04-15 20:09:14 UTC  

CAPITALISM IS NOT A SYSTEM PER SE

2017-04-15 20:09:15 UTC  

that is exactly what eurosocialism is and does

2017-04-15 20:09:18 UTC  

BUT AN ECONOMIC SYSTEM

2017-04-15 20:09:24 UTC  

I mean to your credit it works, but you are calling it the wrong thing

2017-04-15 20:09:26 UTC  

THE POINT IS THAT EVERYTHING ELSE FAILS

2017-04-15 20:09:32 UTC  

AND SO WE HAVE IT

2017-04-15 20:09:35 UTC  

BUT IT NEEDS SHAPING

2017-04-15 20:09:46 UTC  

HENCE SOCIAL ORDER (CASTE), ARISTOCRACY AND CULTURE

2017-04-15 20:09:48 UTC  

WITHOUT THOSE

2017-04-15 20:09:53 UTC  

IT IS LIKE A MACHINE WITHOUT A DRIVER

2017-04-15 20:09:55 UTC  

A DANGER

2017-04-15 20:10:31 UTC  

it is basically the same as me saying "nazi dictator telling the economy what to do" except you are uncomfortable with that title, presumably because it drives away conservative spergs who are triggered by just outright saying "socialism works and is good as long as nazis do it"

2017-04-15 20:10:45 UTC  

and I can understand why, you would drive away your userbase

2017-04-15 20:11:20 UTC  

although, I do not know if you've tried it already, but you could use the fact that nazis are socialist and "pro indigenous rights" to make right wing extremists out of leftoids

2017-04-15 20:11:36 UTC  

you could arrange to do a "nazi lite" site that is essentially left wing amerika, and reel in a whole bunch of lefties

2017-04-15 20:11:40 UTC  

if anyone could pull it off, you could

2017-04-15 20:13:12 UTC  

CAPITALISM IS SELF-ORGANIZING

2017-04-15 20:13:15 UTC  

NOT A COMMAND ECONOMY

2017-04-15 20:13:19 UTC  

THIS IS A HUGE VICTORY ON ITS PART

2017-04-15 20:13:31 UTC  

I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT DRIVING AWAY MY USERBASE

2017-04-15 20:13:43 UTC  

I DO NOT WANT TO ENDORSE ANYTHING THAT WILL NOT WORK

2017-04-15 20:13:49 UTC  

WHAT I WANT IS A BALANCE

2017-04-15 20:13:52 UTC  

> In the future, ideals and culture will rules over methods, mechanisms and tools such as capitalism. This does not mean rejection of capitalism, but putting it in its correct context so that it can do what it does well without interrupting other methods needed in different areas of civilization. While this is too complex for people now, it will soon be seen as commonsense.

How can this not be applied to socialism as well? Why is this not true also?

> In the future, ideals and culture will rules over methods, mechanisms and tools such as socialism. This does not mean rejection of socialism, but putting it in its correct context so that it can do what it does well without interrupting other methods needed in different areas of civilization. While this is too complex for people now, it will soon be seen as commonsense.

2017-04-15 20:13:56 UTC  

CAPITALISM IS PART OF IT, MOSTLY "NOT SOCIALISM"

2017-04-15 20:14:11 UTC  

CAPITALISM IS -- AS THAT EXCERPT NOTES -- A METHOD, NOT A GOAL

2017-04-15 20:14:15 UTC  

eurosocialism already does work, norway is richer GDP-per-capita wise than America is

2017-04-15 20:14:18 UTC  

THOSE COME FROM CULTURE, ARISTOCRACY AND CASTE

2017-04-15 20:14:25 UTC  

EUROSOCIALISM IS BANKRUPT