Message from @Hagel

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2017-04-25 23:00:52 UTC  

We should probably move the metal conversation to <#279635339285626880> or <#279635339285626880>_discussion or something. Thoughts?

2017-04-25 23:10:56 UTC  

or perhaps expand the <#279635339285626880> channel to include more people

2017-04-25 23:13:30 UTC  

kills it

2017-04-25 23:14:10 UTC  

if you don't want there to be metal conversation that's different, but if it's well intentioned helping out then no it would kill it

2017-04-25 23:14:19 UTC  

because it's spontaneous

2017-04-25 23:50:36 UTC  

thats metal

2017-04-25 23:51:01 UTC  

you know there is a a buddhist temple that basically looks like a 3d metal album cover?

2017-04-26 00:07:50 UTC  

pretty cool, not seen that before

2017-04-26 00:53:49 UTC  

Cool story

2017-04-26 01:24:44 UTC  

interesting shit here ^

2017-04-26 01:42:16 UTC  

The more I learn about muslim populations, the more I see islam as a product of them, rather than them being a product of islam

2017-04-26 01:42:39 UTC  

That seems to be the nature of the correlation between islam and despicable behavior. It is a religion of the already despicable

2017-04-26 07:15:33 UTC  

It's erroneous to equate a religion or teaching with some sort of 'inherent bad'

2017-04-26 07:17:22 UTC  

It may be convenient for propaganda purposes

2017-04-26 07:17:30 UTC  

But reality just doesn't work like that

2017-04-26 08:06:24 UTC  

"It's erroneous to equate a religion or teaching with some sort of 'inherent bad'"

2017-04-26 08:06:25 UTC  

No, it is not

2017-04-26 08:06:40 UTC  

Some teachings, like all other things, are good. Some are bad. Some are a bit of both

2017-04-26 08:57:47 UTC  

you're both right

2017-04-26 08:58:19 UTC  

teachings can be bad or good, but no true religion is inherently bad even if it has falsehood in it

2017-04-26 08:58:31 UTC  

all paths are reflections of the good, or derivations thereof

2017-04-26 08:59:15 UTC  

no true religion, honestly adhered to can lead anyone to evil, and can lead anyone to realization and theosis

2017-04-26 09:00:51 UTC  

religions are the same like metal bands are the same

2017-04-26 09:01:13 UTC  

to the external observer, various bands may seem either wildly different or a blur of equally irrelevant similarity

2017-04-26 09:30:11 UTC  

Thoughts on Sikhs?

2017-04-26 09:53:29 UTC  

can you be more specific @rood dood ?

2017-04-26 09:53:39 UTC  

thoughts on them with reference to immigrants in the West?

2017-04-26 09:53:57 UTC  

they are a mercantile/entrepeneur middle minority like Chinese and other Indians

2017-04-26 09:54:13 UTC  

and therefore likely to be seen as "good immigrants" but in the end they are the same as everyone else

2017-04-26 09:54:54 UTC  

most derive from Punjabi Khatris (Kshatriya)

2017-04-26 09:55:02 UTC  

there is a crisis/reformation going on in their midst

2017-04-26 09:55:22 UTC  

the current form of Sikhism is relatively new, it used to be less doctrinaire, more internally diverse

2017-04-26 09:55:54 UTC  

there is a big issue with one of their 5 "K"s , Kesh, or unshorn hair

2017-04-26 09:56:23 UTC  

in that many baptized sikhs living in the west find they cannot keep unshorn beards due to societal pressure both from within their ingroup (females) and without

2017-04-26 09:57:57 UTC  

despite being supposedly casteless, with the 10th guru mandating that Sikhs discard their clan (gotra, caste) names in favour of "Singh" (Lion) and "Kaur" (Princess) for male and female respectively; most keep their caste names

2017-04-26 09:58:08 UTC  

and intermarry only with the same or equivalent castes

2017-04-26 09:58:28 UTC  

so dalit or otherwise lower born Sikhs are marginalized, even in temples etc.