Message from @fallot

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2017-04-27 11:36:49 UTC  

People even on hardcore right doublethink this away as genuine progress

2017-04-27 11:37:25 UTC  

Possible because the internal moral or disgust response is so neutered they simply dont feel its wrong

2017-04-27 11:37:33 UTC  

Reason follows such impulses

2017-04-27 11:38:19 UTC  

Its why obscenity can be a crime in an "of course its wrong" way to plenty of people

2017-04-27 11:38:26 UTC  

Like public coprophagia

2017-04-27 11:39:03 UTC  

Even now the basic hostile response is not fully absent

2017-04-27 11:39:15 UTC  

Just diminished to apathy

2017-04-27 11:39:32 UTC  

This apathy defines the modern west and indeed the modern world

2017-04-27 11:39:54 UTC  

You see it most in young intelligent males

2017-04-27 11:40:41 UTC  

Who live in the most abstract world hence the absence of these basics in that realm makes them vegetables or libertarians

2017-04-27 11:41:30 UTC  

How to possibly change such a state of being though?

2017-04-27 11:42:10 UTC  

It's very ingrained

2017-04-27 11:42:25 UTC  

Health is immediately available as you cannot truly kill nature

2017-04-27 11:42:32 UTC  

What seems deeply ingrained

2017-04-27 11:42:40 UTC  

Is in many ways self chosen

2017-04-27 11:42:55 UTC  

When the disentanglement occurs change is rapid

2017-04-27 11:44:22 UTC  

Apathy seems to be at the root of all the other sicknesses

2017-04-27 11:44:24 UTC  

This is for general cases

2017-04-27 11:44:46 UTC  

Yeah. It is basically despair in a sense.

2017-04-27 11:44:58 UTC  

Not depression per se

2017-04-27 11:45:05 UTC  

Just giving up

2017-04-27 11:45:13 UTC  

Not in actions

2017-04-27 11:45:19 UTC  

But in the heart

2017-04-27 11:45:43 UTC  

@Kalvin you may be familiar with the hadith of the least good

2017-04-27 11:46:30 UTC  

No

2017-04-27 11:46:35 UTC  

“Whoever of you sees an evil must then change it with his hand. If he is not able to do so, then [he must change it ] with his tongue. And if he is not able to do so, then [he must change it] with his heart. And that is the slightest [effect of] faith.”

2017-04-27 11:47:40 UTC  

I remember talking about this in a group actually

2017-04-27 11:49:22 UTC  

Or something similar. Not openly voicing one's inner darkness

2017-04-27 11:49:52 UTC  

What is inner darkness

2017-04-27 11:50:06 UTC  

Perhaps some of what you call inner darkness

2017-04-27 11:50:16 UTC  

Is good. Light. Whatever

2017-04-27 11:50:29 UTC  

And some legitimately evil

2017-04-27 11:50:48 UTC  

Intentions decide

2017-04-27 11:50:57 UTC  

Remember nothing is evil

2017-04-27 11:51:10 UTC  

Except souls. Choices.

2017-04-27 11:51:26 UTC  

Because evil is a privation. Understand this.

2017-04-27 11:51:43 UTC  

Evil is un- or anti- good only

2017-04-27 11:51:49 UTC  

Not anything itself

2017-04-27 11:52:06 UTC  

Guarding the gaze, holding the tongue etc are ways to keep a lid one's potential for evil

2017-04-27 11:52:44 UTC  

Yeah, these are in context though

2017-04-27 11:52:59 UTC  

Sometimes the tongue needs to be loosed