Message from @gohan
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It was you that said it was the fire that caused the steel to weaken. Now back it up with some sauce bud.
Alright.
I want to know the temp needed for steel to soften. I want to know the max temp of an office building fire with jet fuel.
And I'll give it to you
No need to be pushy, you know I'm thorough
I know you will. 😃
Alright, so first question is, have you ever seen the aftermath of a building fire?
Not a house fire, but like, a commercial one
Yes
Have you noticed how there's no puddles of hardened steel?
No melted steel bars, but a lot of warped and twisted steel bars
I meant a collapsed building, but you can see warped steel there, so I suppose
This tells us that a building can collapse if the steel structure loses its integrity.
Actually, the steel looks fine.
The rest of the building materials don’t.
Lower right
The carbon content of the steel matters as well
Does this look like a building that collapsed from softened steel? All 4 corners collapsing at the same time?
But I'm getting there
Please answer my question. Does that look like a building collapse from weakened steel? From a not so major office fire?
Gwench, please stop trying to sidetrack me.
Let me finish.
No. Actually. This is very important.
The towers also used ASTM A242 steel, with a 0.12% carbon content
It's a tangent that I'm not going down right now.
It’s a tangent I wish to go down. Doesn’t that look the same as the collapse of the twin towers?
Actually, it does not
Wdym?
The twin towers collapsed due to pancaking, top down
This one collapsed from the bottom, indicating a controlled demolition.
Gotcha
Lol
That image is the collapse of tower 7
Same day
Other than that, the twin towers were also far more slender, lending to a difference in basic building structure, which I'll get to later.
Yes, I know.
Tower 7 was also not on fire.
At least, not to the extent of the larger towers.
So that is the smoking gun isn’t it?