Message from @MOS MAIORVM (AKA Sola)

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2017-05-09 05:26:46 UTC  

Hence semi

2017-05-09 05:26:50 UTC  

That's not true at all

2017-05-09 05:26:51 UTC  

Re what you said

2017-05-09 05:27:03 UTC  

It is trivially true

2017-05-09 05:27:12 UTC  

Its validity depends on your priors

2017-05-09 05:27:25 UTC  

The mechanics of what you study

2017-05-09 05:27:29 UTC  

I'm not debating the validity of whether cheese causes cancer

2017-05-09 05:27:42 UTC  

Sure. I mean in general too.

2017-05-09 05:27:47 UTC  

I'm debating the validity of the results of any given study based on length and size

2017-05-09 05:28:07 UTC  

It is well established that such factors are important

2017-05-09 05:28:18 UTC  

Part of the scientific method if I recall properly

2017-05-09 05:28:34 UTC  

Not as important as your average person considers them

2017-05-09 05:28:54 UTC  

And how to do you come to that conclusion or measure such a thing?

2017-05-09 05:29:11 UTC  

Look

2017-05-09 05:29:17 UTC  

I'm not saying a long study makes it valid

2017-05-09 05:29:25 UTC  

but a long study under the same given conditions is superior to a short study

2017-05-09 05:29:28 UTC  

By observing the overall quality of science in terms of measurable impact or real insight

2017-05-09 05:29:35 UTC  

And again I say

2017-05-09 05:29:42 UTC  

Not necessarily

2017-05-09 05:29:51 UTC  

Long enough is the best one can say

2017-05-09 05:30:09 UTC  

Long enough is subjective

2017-05-09 05:30:24 UTC  

To some degree yes

2017-05-09 05:30:34 UTC  

Rest dependent on studied thing

2017-05-09 05:30:58 UTC  

Science always proceded on insight

2017-05-09 05:31:10 UTC  

Confirmed by experiment perhaps

2017-05-09 05:31:16 UTC  

Perhaps not

2017-05-09 05:31:30 UTC  

If we were to tally the causes of starvation to attempt to prevent it, counting only the past 100 years of history is entirely inferior to measuring the entirety of both history and prehistory.

2017-05-09 05:31:48 UTC  

This is objective

2017-05-09 05:31:58 UTC  

the more data you have the better

2017-05-09 05:32:10 UTC  

The better in what sense

2017-05-09 05:32:30 UTC  

To check against your own conclusions?

2017-05-09 05:32:43 UTC  

To compound an error you made?

2017-05-09 05:32:54 UTC  

The better understanding of what causes starvation

2017-05-09 05:33:18 UTC  

More data also gives you the ability to construct viable seeming statistical models

2017-05-09 05:33:36 UTC  

Which are basically best fit abstractions. Or not even best fit

2017-05-09 05:33:56 UTC  

That are not true. You see this a lot in recent high energy physics

2017-05-09 05:34:00 UTC  

And astronomy

2017-05-09 05:34:14 UTC  

Where there is a surfiet of data

2017-05-09 05:34:37 UTC  

And papers being written every day based on it that will turn out to be spurious

2017-05-09 05:34:43 UTC  

The vast majority

2017-05-09 05:34:48 UTC  

Actually it would give you less ability to construct viable statisticial models because it allots for more variation