Message from @MOS MAIORVM (AKA Sola)

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2017-05-09 05:24:56 UTC  

I'm open to the idea, though I'd of course like to see more research

2017-05-09 05:25:08 UTC  

Be careful with that

2017-05-09 05:25:22 UTC  

2 years ago I would have said similarly

2017-05-09 05:25:37 UTC  

I think the point was that a 10 year study is far more reliable than a 1 year study

2017-05-09 05:25:45 UTC  

it's similar to sample size

2017-05-09 05:25:46 UTC  

Is it?

2017-05-09 05:25:54 UTC  

Another semi fallacy

2017-05-09 05:25:59 UTC  

All these things

2017-05-09 05:26:07 UTC  

how is that a semi fallacy?

2017-05-09 05:26:30 UTC  

Are you proposing that a 2 week study is as reliable as a 10 year study under the same conditions?

2017-05-09 05:26:35 UTC  

Because ultimately the validity does not depend on how big or blind your study is

2017-05-09 05:26:36 UTC  

I find that doubtful

2017-05-09 05:26:46 UTC  

Hence semi

2017-05-09 05:26:50 UTC  

That's not true at all

2017-05-09 05:26:51 UTC  

Re what you said

2017-05-09 05:27:03 UTC  

It is trivially true

2017-05-09 05:27:12 UTC  

Its validity depends on your priors

2017-05-09 05:27:25 UTC  

The mechanics of what you study

2017-05-09 05:27:29 UTC  

I'm not debating the validity of whether cheese causes cancer

2017-05-09 05:27:42 UTC  

Sure. I mean in general too.

2017-05-09 05:27:47 UTC  

I'm debating the validity of the results of any given study based on length and size

2017-05-09 05:28:07 UTC  

It is well established that such factors are important

2017-05-09 05:28:18 UTC  

Part of the scientific method if I recall properly

2017-05-09 05:28:34 UTC  

Not as important as your average person considers them

2017-05-09 05:28:54 UTC  

And how to do you come to that conclusion or measure such a thing?

2017-05-09 05:29:11 UTC  

Look

2017-05-09 05:29:17 UTC  

I'm not saying a long study makes it valid

2017-05-09 05:29:25 UTC  

but a long study under the same given conditions is superior to a short study

2017-05-09 05:29:28 UTC  

By observing the overall quality of science in terms of measurable impact or real insight

2017-05-09 05:29:35 UTC  

And again I say

2017-05-09 05:29:42 UTC  

Not necessarily

2017-05-09 05:29:51 UTC  

Long enough is the best one can say

2017-05-09 05:30:09 UTC  

Long enough is subjective

2017-05-09 05:30:24 UTC  

To some degree yes

2017-05-09 05:30:34 UTC  

Rest dependent on studied thing

2017-05-09 05:30:58 UTC  

Science always proceded on insight

2017-05-09 05:31:10 UTC  

Confirmed by experiment perhaps

2017-05-09 05:31:16 UTC  

Perhaps not

2017-05-09 05:31:30 UTC  

If we were to tally the causes of starvation to attempt to prevent it, counting only the past 100 years of history is entirely inferior to measuring the entirety of both history and prehistory.

2017-05-09 05:31:48 UTC  

This is objective

2017-05-09 05:31:58 UTC  

the more data you have the better