the overall concept of owning land, living off of it and making all your own food, trapping it etc. reveals some wrong assumptions

all of that is illegal either outright or de facto

well than get yourself in a position in which you can produce it yourself

there is a minimum amount of societal participation that the herd demands of you by force

for example, property taxes

no matter what, you have to do enough economic activity to pay for that

you have to pay property taxes when you buy it after you bought it its yours and you dont have to pay taxes at least thats my assumption

what country are you in

because that is not true of america at least

germany

generally property taxes are recurring annual expenses here

i am not actualyl sure if this is true so you could be right here

don't know about there

society expects/demands a minimum amount from all of us

it demands property taxes or rent (paid to the guy who them pays property tax)

it expects we do not grow all our own food (illegal)

it expects we do not booby trap our property (illegal here)

It is illegal to grow your own food?

in america? yes

what i dont belive that

the laws say no, but if you try it bad things tend to happen to you

I mean it's not like you are the first person to come up with the idea, yet you don't see people doing it

they use zoning laws, "you could grow it all but only in this part of town, you live on the wrong side of some line so it's illegal"

or they will find other ways to bust you over it

join any permaculture forum and you will find examples fast

that's the thing foreigners unfortunately don't understand about this place

america likes to portray itself as this land of anarchic freedom and opportunity

europeans are generally smart enough to know that isn't exactly true, but they are often quite surprised how much is illegal here

for example, where I currently live, if I even want to change a few boards on the siding of my house, I have to hire an engineer to draw up plans of what I want to do, then present it to a city government and get it approved

on my lawn, I am allowed to grow grass and only grass, and it must be less than so many centimeters tall or I get fined

it's something like 6 american inches

wtf

so 15cm

also in autumn, my leaves must be raked up

I cannot just leave them to rot into the soil and fertilize it

they must be raked almost 100% or else fines

if you want to homeschool your children it is difficult and there are some states you are not even allowed to do it

if you produce raw milk, military police will boot down your door

obviously a european would know the amount of freedom in america is exaggerated, but they would never guess just how overexaggerated

bro where are you Marin County?

you're right broadly but you also seem to be somewhere with ridiculously right zoning. and an HOA?