Message from @TendieLord

Discord ID: 342837179111702538


2017-08-04 01:09:02 UTC  

this problem comes up in medicine a lot

2017-08-04 01:09:10 UTC  

I see what you're saying

2017-08-04 01:09:12 UTC  

a lot of stuff is tested to be just great, very useful

2017-08-04 01:09:26 UTC  

but has no clinical significance once actually put into practice

2017-08-04 01:09:37 UTC  

partly that's just bad faith testing

2017-08-04 01:09:53 UTC  

correct would be:
Extremely open to new experience
Highly conscientious
Extremes of introversion and extraversion depending on the day
Not agreeable at all
High neuroticism

2017-08-04 01:09:55 UTC  

and a lot of stuff done in medicine does not have good ("A") evidence

2017-08-04 01:10:32 UTC  

5 disparate things that come together into nothing at all, I've always found

2017-08-04 01:10:41 UTC  

what five things

2017-08-04 01:10:47 UTC  

the ones @Deleted User 57835c2c just said

2017-08-04 01:10:49 UTC  

its his big 5

2017-08-04 01:11:01 UTC  

what do you mean by "come together into nothing at all"

2017-08-04 01:11:08 UTC  

that they're orthogonal?

2017-08-04 01:11:43 UTC  

you cannot derive anything from it, new knowledge, it doesn't tell you anything about the person beyond the sum of the parts tested

2017-08-04 01:11:49 UTC  

whereas an MBTI profile tells you a lot

2017-08-04 01:12:04 UTC  

you can predict their responses to specific scenarios based on that information

2017-08-04 01:12:06 UTC  

that's helpful

2017-08-04 01:12:08 UTC  

like even your skepticism for this stuff

2017-08-04 01:12:10 UTC  

fits with your type

2017-08-04 01:12:20 UTC  

yeah, but when you predict

2017-08-04 01:12:33 UTC  

I don't doubt that MBTI can make solid analyses of personality

2017-08-04 01:12:34 UTC  

you're just using the result itself

2017-08-04 01:12:49 UTC  

you're not getting a holistic picture out of it that tells you about how that person thinks

2017-08-04 01:12:53 UTC  

what they may value, and how

2017-08-04 01:13:01 UTC  

why not

2017-08-04 01:13:06 UTC  

sure sounds like it

2017-08-04 01:13:10 UTC  

I dont understand the question

2017-08-04 01:13:31 UTC  

*you're not getting a holistic picture out of it that tells you about how that person thinks*

2017-08-04 01:13:34 UTC  

you can tell they are introverted if they score high on introversion

2017-08-04 01:13:39 UTC  

yeah

2017-08-04 01:13:51 UTC  

isn't that a personality trait

2017-08-04 01:13:54 UTC  

you can tell they are neurotic if they score high on neuroticism

2017-08-04 01:13:58 UTC  

its a personality trait, sure

2017-08-04 01:13:58 UTC  

yeah

2017-08-04 01:14:07 UTC  

isn't that what the test is supposed to determine

2017-08-04 01:14:17 UTC  

what their personality traits are

2017-08-04 01:14:30 UTC  

I guess?

2017-08-04 01:14:35 UTC  

ok

2017-08-04 01:14:39 UTC  

what's the problem then

2017-08-04 01:14:51 UTC  

other than apparent lack of applicabillity

2017-08-04 01:15:02 UTC  

well first of all