they just start to notice or care about something particularly

but they tend to still miss the big picture because they still see things the same ways as leftists

first they become libertarians

then they become racially conscious libertarians

then development stops

too many fundamental assumptions go unquestioned

its not even about individually changing your point of view about something

but a whole different "colour" to thinking etc.

even race consciousness is limited to defending whiteness as one of many equal racial groups

if one thinks back to the past (not that this is foolproof)

has race consciousness ever been a significant motivational factor for a society?

i.e. a lasting one

not just for some revolution, but an actual society

well, recently that has gone by the wayside, especially with regard to whites

a people is made up of two things

their material existence, and their spirit, or culture or abstract existence

so not race, and not culture, but (my own term) ethnoculture

genetics, and culture-format, which imo, are interlinked

sure yeah

the latter tends to trump the former though

to a degree, yes

right but the libertarian alt-rightists you are describing remain limited from actually engaging with an ethnoculture

they are interlinked as a matter of course, to even question a link is in a sense a leftist assumption

everything is meaningful

I guess my use of leftist just means atheist or materialist

that's basically what I'm getting at

a materialist intellectual / moral foundation remains

even for well meaning ones yeah

even for ones who start to adhere to some religion, this mentality can remain behind the scenes

and so a rejection of a political leftism diverts into a flaccid dead end libertarianism reflective of the abandoned leftism

yeah the number one result is apathy

inability to notice something is wrong with a situation

"what's the big deal about trannies pissing in some bathrooms?"

no idea

the bathroom wars, are, imo, pointlessly finicky

from what you said about LGBT I think you've probably got a similar attitude

its like the boomer generation has suddenly realised that there are trans people, and then flipped right the fuck out at the idea of them being in the same bathrooms as the boomer gens

what's your position on it

or anything you have to say about this stuff

well, it wasn't an issue before 9-11-01, so, why would it have to suddenly be such an issue now ?

@rebekka888 is a tranny