Message from @TendieLord

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2017-08-17 20:24:32 UTC  

the statues thing is ultimately less about racism or any other passing moral fad and more about destroying the heritage and cultural foundation of your enemy

2017-08-17 20:24:55 UTC  

like the english and the irish

2017-08-17 20:25:02 UTC  

or the spanish and the natives of the southwest

2017-08-17 20:25:07 UTC  

or sauron and those god damn white trees

2017-08-17 20:25:14 UTC  

Those are one in the same though

2017-08-17 20:25:42 UTC  

American culture historically had more hierarchy than none at all

2017-08-17 20:25:51 UTC  

definitely

2017-08-17 20:26:07 UTC  

but the argument is that the past actions of those guys were naughty, so we shouldn't venerate them

2017-08-17 20:26:17 UTC  

Exactly

2017-08-17 20:26:34 UTC  

but it's not really about venerating their specific past naughtiness, it's more about the basic concept of knowing who your ancestors even are

2017-08-17 20:26:36 UTC  

Their actions were hierarchical

2017-08-17 20:26:42 UTC  

I see

2017-08-17 20:26:59 UTC  

the left would rather no one created identities they like from knowledge of their past ancestry

2017-08-17 20:27:10 UTC  

which, to tie in with your point, is a hierarchical act

2017-08-17 20:27:41 UTC  

but yes their specific actions were also hierarchical, which is an unpardonable sin

2017-08-17 20:29:01 UTC  

hey Amerika guys can I submit an article for publication

2017-08-17 20:29:13 UTC  

I'll write about this stupid statue issue

2017-08-17 20:30:22 UTC  

Also note that many of these statues are on public, not private territory

2017-08-17 20:30:45 UTC  

But the social media battle is being fought on private domain

2017-08-17 20:31:01 UTC  

hmm what do you mean by the second part of that

2017-08-17 20:31:47 UTC  

The crackdown on alt-Right dialogue is coming from corporations

2017-08-17 20:31:50 UTC  

Not governments

2017-08-17 20:32:27 UTC  

I think that is very significant

2017-08-17 20:32:47 UTC  

Because it may disenfranchise many free market capitalists

2017-08-17 20:32:51 UTC  

definitely. the left becomes more and more corporate. did they feel so defeated after occupy wall street that they said "can't beat em join em?"

2017-08-17 20:33:25 UTC  

anti-corporatism could become a Rightist discipline

2017-08-17 20:33:34 UTC  

Much like environmentalism

2017-08-17 20:35:30 UTC  

The opportunity is certainly there for both. Despite his coke addiction and plagiarism, Zizek makes some good points one of which is that "freedom" is sort of an illusion if all your options are shit

2017-08-17 20:36:51 UTC  

the "freedom" and "small government" crowd get way too fixated on those principles specifically and it leads them into some contorted and compromised positions

2017-08-17 20:42:44 UTC  

They focus on theory and not on practice

2017-08-17 20:42:59 UTC  

Typical of ideologues and fools

2017-08-17 20:43:17 UTC  

Two groups which tend to be mutually inclusive

2017-08-17 21:59:46 UTC  

hahahaha

2017-08-17 22:32:23 UTC  

didn't he literally condemn these dudes

2017-08-17 22:36:15 UTC  

yeah, he did

2017-08-17 22:39:38 UTC  

see, trump is getting swarmed and called Hitler

2017-08-17 22:40:00 UTC  

he is guilty whether he did anything or not, so he might as well start up the grinders and at least enjoy the crime

2017-08-17 22:42:36 UTC  

at this point he will probably be killed by a leftist eventually

2017-08-17 22:42:43 UTC  

people are that butthurt, someone will try it

2017-08-17 22:42:49 UTC  

so he might as well kill all of them before they kill him