but 20mill deads, they could have prevented that.

they could have lost like 15 mil

realistically

10 million civilians, half battlefield casualties

but hitler had no reason to lose ww2 as badly as he did on the eastenr front

means that the red army was a fucking shit in the beggining then realised that stalin fucked the whole officiality in the late 30's and left an entire mass of unorganized soldiers

yeah and then they reorgnaized

as they were massive

and top down vertically integreated

unlikethe werhmacht

which is just guys on the bottom

and middle managers

and then idiots on top

yes, they basically brought back the "Imperial Russian empire" doctrine back

idiots dying helps

the fun fact is that the Soviet Union was saved by Tsarist generals mostly

yes

ww1 vets

but yeah the soviet government had political legitimacy as they won the war

that gave them about 30 years or so of it

if Stalin hadn't killed their officers in the 30's the easter front would have lasted 1years, or 2years

yeah

hitler could have probably etched itout to 46 or so

in the east

if he wasn't retarded

it's hard when another army is wiping out hte rest of your guys

form the other side

same with the lend lease

i think the soviet army would have stopped by Poland and that's all.

how?

they didn't had enough tanks and logistics

how do you stop them if you're hitler?

you have to stop the #1 and #2 armies in the world

and it's 1943-44

defensive, i mean the lend lease send to the soviets years of non-ferritic production

hitler didn't have to lose all these massive holocaust battles like stalingrad and kursk and the neva-donne offensive (?) and normandy and the bulge

and food

but even then, how the hell do you stop them?

http://histrf.ru/uploads/media/default/0001/12/df78d3da0fe55d965333035cd9d4ee2770550653.pdf

the best goal for hitler is actually just live long enough

until you get shot