Message from @Abdul Alhazred

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2017-08-23 23:36:55 UTC  

the spanish were how many 500-1000?

2017-08-23 23:36:57 UTC  

from top to bottom

2017-08-23 23:36:59 UTC  

no

2017-08-23 23:37:03 UTC  

yes from top to bottom

2017-08-23 23:37:12 UTC  

the wehrmacht are totally fucked eveyrwhere but on bottom

2017-08-23 23:37:14 UTC  

false, in the beggining they were so unorganized

2017-08-23 23:37:22 UTC  

yeah but it didn't matter

2017-08-23 23:37:33 UTC  

they juts reorganized by the book

2017-08-23 23:37:43 UTC  

of course if you call war sending millions of soldiers into the butcher

2017-08-23 23:37:54 UTC  

the red army had total integration of dude on the ground -> junior officer -> general officer

2017-08-23 23:37:55 UTC  

by the endof hte war

2017-08-23 23:38:10 UTC  

while th egermans were like just guys

2017-08-23 23:38:14 UTC  

and killing a entire generation, stalin could have prevented that if he didn't have killed their best officers in the 30's

2017-08-23 23:38:15 UTC  

and no idea waht they were doing

2017-08-23 23:38:34 UTC  

yeah dude but they won

2017-08-23 23:38:46 UTC  

but 20mill deads, they could have prevented that.

2017-08-23 23:38:51 UTC  

they could have lost like 15 mil

2017-08-23 23:38:53 UTC  

realistically

2017-08-23 23:39:04 UTC  

10 million civilians, half battlefield casualties

2017-08-23 23:39:15 UTC  

but hitler had no reason to lose ww2 as badly as he did on the eastenr front

2017-08-23 23:39:24 UTC  

means that the red army was a fucking shit in the beggining then realised that stalin fucked the whole officiality in the late 30's and left an entire mass of unorganized soldiers

2017-08-23 23:39:35 UTC  

yeah and then they reorgnaized

2017-08-23 23:39:37 UTC  

as they were massive

2017-08-23 23:39:43 UTC  

and top down vertically integreated

2017-08-23 23:39:46 UTC  

unlikethe werhmacht

2017-08-23 23:39:52 UTC  

which is just guys on the bottom

2017-08-23 23:39:57 UTC  

and middle managers

2017-08-23 23:40:04 UTC  

and then idiots on top

2017-08-23 23:40:10 UTC  

yes, they basically brought back the "Imperial Russian empire" doctrine back

2017-08-23 23:40:18 UTC  

idiots dying helps

2017-08-23 23:40:32 UTC  

the fun fact is that the Soviet Union was saved by Tsarist generals mostly

2017-08-23 23:40:35 UTC  

yes

2017-08-23 23:40:41 UTC  

ww1 vets

2017-08-23 23:41:08 UTC  

but yeah the soviet government had political legitimacy as they won the war

2017-08-23 23:41:22 UTC  

that gave them about 30 years or so of it

2017-08-23 23:41:27 UTC  

if Stalin hadn't killed their officers in the 30's the easter front would have lasted 1years, or 2years

2017-08-23 23:41:32 UTC  

yeah

2017-08-23 23:41:48 UTC  

hitler could have probably etched itout to 46 or so

2017-08-23 23:41:51 UTC  

in the east

2017-08-23 23:41:53 UTC  

if he wasn't retarded

2017-08-23 23:42:01 UTC  

it's hard when another army is wiping out hte rest of your guys