this takes effort applied toward organization applied by people with actual leadership skills

well what I see happening a lot is libs getting easy business success because when they open an ideological business, other libs feel obligated to throw money at it for them thinking The Right Way

like a food co op

also libs are notoriously better at cooperating than rightists

I have a lot of expeirence working with both

I'm somewhat sympathetic to leftist economic positions. I think the worship of capital tends to displace other morals

capitalism I think leads to "fuck you, got mine" thinking even by people who don't "got theirs"

whereas socialists have this collectivist mindset that makes them effective in groups

I do agree that libs are better at cooperating. but that is in part because achievement hierarchies that allow rightists to work together don't exist as much anymore

true

a rejection of monarchy at the start of this nation has been abstracted to a distrust of authority and real leadership for many rightists

not without merit

but makes cooperation and organization harder

what rightists need are the opposite of Milo

i.e., quiet careful guys who organize well

yeah

who will basically create small secret societies

I like the fact that the altright is diverse, like a cancer

the way a tumor works, it isn't all clonal, the cells are many lines

and they use one chemotherapy drug, and some lines survive it, and then split into new lines

and their chemo doesn't work anymore

there are many ways to run a city

that's why I am glad the altright has everything from guys like me to guys like milo to guys like alex jones

to guys like you

yeah I'm not saying Milos get out . Milos have value.

it just can't be all Milos

even to fairly normal guys like prozak

or at least normal intentioned guys like prozak

yeah

any crazy dude or strategy to undo leftism running screaming into the fray, it's all good

if enough people do it, something will work

well look at the DNC or GOP

lots of politics comes down to individual candidates and their camps

the two party system is a coalition *prior* to election, unlike a parliamentary system where coalitions form *after*

the alt-right doesn't need to fully define itself

it only needs to generally agree on broad items to oppose and support, and learn to cooperate

i.e. a rejection of the necessity of equality, certainly of outcome, maybe also of opportunity

a rejection of the idea of US as "a nation of immigrants"

I struggle with the question of whether libertarians belong within

under that broad ideological framework, if an alt-right city council in Montana wants to support something like stream access rights on private property and an alt-right city council in Idaho doesn't, doesn't matter