Pat Benatar could fucking sing

@fallot compare her to classical female singers/vocalists. She's mediocre at best. If you unplugged her and got her to sing by herself (no equipment or music) it'd be less than great.

I'm not comparing pop stars to opera/classicals

there's no point

I'm just saying unlike Taylor Swift and Britney Spears, Gaga can actually hit notes

mediocre compared to professional classical singers = decent singer

exactly

@UOC. But they're actually the good singers. So if she can't compare then she isn't really good.

its not so relative

what did I say

if some magical singer appeared

who sang 10,000 times better than pros

"demi lovato is the only pop starlet who can actually sing"

@fallot decent compared to Katy Perry perhaps, who has a voice like a horse

the pros would still be good

Katy Perry can also sing

did I say they had great voices?

Have u heard Perry unplugged? It's much worse than gaga. She's actually bad.

Beyonce can sing pretty good actually

Katy Perry is terrbile

I've heard Perry unplugged, she can sing

She can't sing while dancing around lol

that's a big factor

Ariana Grande of all people can sing okay

Bieber too

Bieber is a good singer

Bieber has a nice voice, tbh

@fallot dude, she sucks. She can sing compared to your average chick who thinks she can sing. But she's not good.

while she uses a lot of gimmicks

I'm glad we're past the point where everyone hates Bieber for no clear reason

she consistently hits notes and has a good voice production

Justin is an arrogant soyboy wigger faggot.

That's why he's hated.

I really enjoyed his song "one less lonely nigger"

it is a part of the image projected about him

Plus his music is effeminate. It's not manly.

He's a child

or was anyway

not anymore

A perpetual child.

He's past age 20