@fallot I disagree they do think. Into have an inclination for more deductive thought though. Intj to a lesser degree.

the internal is the external though @UOC

Intp*

isn't that thinking

deduction

That's logical thinking

so how do INTJ think then, as you understand it

and what is your type @NarthissiumRithmomachy

On work projects, generally, I very actively think "I need X outcome. To accomplish X outcome, the best arguments I can make given the applicable law is Y and Z." Then I break Y and Z arguments into very intentional, logical progressions.

But other thoughts just occur in a more revelatory way.

yeah, that's what I mean

it just comes

But it comes because I am thinking about that cloud of things all the time sorta

like my mind is just hanging out in that conceptual area

I consider that more like seeing

with your "third eye" or whatever

thinking implies to me an active process

@fallot I have aspergers and I've studied a lot of critical thinking and logic so I don't have s good theory of mind and my thinking is augmented. The INTJs I know are quite deductive and inductive but with a tendency for daydreaming and creation of mental abstraction by coalescing

meditating on something is not the same as actively thinking

I do both then

what do you do most of the time

I do the latter all the time

and the former when I must, usually for work

because I have to convince someone else

based on existing rules

knowing I would call it instead

that I am right

my mind is empty, and knowledge comes from the heavens

but some of my fiction writing is also very logical, because I am still a neophyte and I'm trying to learn very basics

while I sit and spectate

when I am good at that stuff, things will flow

same is true with jiu jitsu

read Bayley some time

I will

really

I believe you :3

@fallot who is that?

Barrington Bayley is a deceased british science fiction writer

@fallot is he good to read for learning style?

no, for sheer creative power

his style is somewhat pulpy

but its also absolutely honest