do you actively think

its hard for me to coalesce thoughts into actual beliefs

yes

I think so anyway

I'm not sure I do, its more like daydreaming

I think many ways. At work I think very deliberately. Like step by step to a conclusion.

yeah, that's what I consider thinking

@fallot aren't u INTJ though,?

or call thinking

yes, INTJ don't think, INTP do

but I think its also valid to observe and let your thoughts compose themselves

well I mean I'm not sure

it depends what one defines as thinking

I talk with my wife a lot about revelations I have had

is inspiration or a flash of intuition thinking?

is revelation thinking?

I don't think so, I think it is perception

subconscious construction of thought

simply direct visualization of supra-material reality

@fallot I disagree they do think. Into have an inclination for more deductive thought though. Intj to a lesser degree.

the internal is the external though @UOC

Intp*

isn't that thinking

deduction

That's logical thinking

so how do INTJ think then, as you understand it

and what is your type @NarthissiumRithmomachy

On work projects, generally, I very actively think "I need X outcome. To accomplish X outcome, the best arguments I can make given the applicable law is Y and Z." Then I break Y and Z arguments into very intentional, logical progressions.

But other thoughts just occur in a more revelatory way.

yeah, that's what I mean

it just comes

But it comes because I am thinking about that cloud of things all the time sorta

like my mind is just hanging out in that conceptual area

I consider that more like seeing

with your "third eye" or whatever

thinking implies to me an active process

@fallot I have aspergers and I've studied a lot of critical thinking and logic so I don't have s good theory of mind and my thinking is augmented. The INTJs I know are quite deductive and inductive but with a tendency for daydreaming and creation of mental abstraction by coalescing

meditating on something is not the same as actively thinking

I do both then

what do you do most of the time

I do the latter all the time

and the former when I must, usually for work