Message from @Kalier

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2017-08-31 15:34:56 UTC  

no values like future-orientation or other heritable traits

2017-08-31 15:35:21 UTC  

IQ is largely heritable

2017-08-31 15:35:33 UTC  

personality traits are 50-70% heritable

2017-08-31 15:35:34 UTC  

a culture as a meta-structure may adopt population scale traits as valuable

2017-08-31 15:36:16 UTC  

and some of those traits certainly play a bigger role at creating higher civilization than others

2017-08-31 15:36:23 UTC  

yes

2017-08-31 15:36:56 UTC  

If a culture is very conservative, there will be no progress

2017-08-31 15:37:10 UTC  

Example some african cultures

2017-08-31 15:37:44 UTC  

again, that largely depends on the general intelligence and personality traits of the population at hand

2017-08-31 15:38:09 UTC  

The intelligence depends of the culture and the way of life

2017-08-31 15:38:11 UTC  

@Kalier Progress is only necessary if the environment changes

2017-08-31 15:38:15 UTC  

in a traditionalist culture

2017-08-31 15:38:27 UTC  

What is the antonym of tradition?

2017-08-31 15:38:32 UTC  

Drawing a blank here

2017-08-31 15:38:36 UTC  

intelligence depends very little on culture / way of life. extensive twin research demonstrates this

2017-08-31 15:38:43 UTC  

its mostly heritable

2017-08-31 15:38:54 UTC  

and nutrition?

2017-08-31 15:39:25 UTC  

nutrition is a red herring, historically speaking

2017-08-31 15:40:01 UTC  

its not really a distinct variable in the civilization building eras we're discussing

2017-08-31 15:40:10 UTC  

If a african person is educated with western values from birth, there will be no difference

2017-08-31 15:40:58 UTC  

In Africa, IQ is low because of poverty

2017-08-31 15:41:07 UTC  

Oh my

2017-08-31 15:41:22 UTC  

Human intelligence is highly heritable.
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v16/n10/abs/mp201185a.html

2017-08-31 15:41:22 UTC  

maybe IQ and poverty have a mutual causal relationship

2017-08-31 15:41:42 UTC  

Black children raised in White households have similar IQ scores to Black children in Black households.
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001

2017-08-31 15:41:56 UTC  

IQ is one of the genetic population scale traits that determines the appropriate civilizational level

2017-08-31 15:41:58 UTC  

IQ is low, so everybody is poor, so nobody has the resources to improve IQ, so everybody gets poorer, etc.

2017-08-31 15:42:02 UTC  

and in that way is connected to poverty

2017-08-31 15:42:11 UTC  

but low IQ does not stem from poverty

2017-08-31 15:42:38 UTC  

the only resource for improving IQ is to select genetically for it over the long run

2017-08-31 15:43:03 UTC  

Do you believe in Evolution? Because the humanity is from Africa

2017-08-31 15:43:14 UTC  

thus, IQ decreasing by one SV in the west in the last few hundred years

2017-08-31 15:43:16 UTC  

...so?

2017-08-31 15:43:44 UTC  

Okay, so I'm calling this out.

2017-08-31 15:43:46 UTC  

The genetic doesn't influence, only the culture and your social class

2017-08-31 15:43:49 UTC  

We're being trolled.

2017-08-31 15:43:55 UTC  

I do believe in evolution which is why i don't believe that someone distinct populations are completely the same

2017-08-31 15:43:58 UTC  

yeah definitely troll

2017-08-31 15:44:00 UTC  

I refuse to participate in this anymore.

2017-08-31 15:44:04 UTC  

Troll?

2017-08-31 15:44:24 UTC  

I only saying my opinion