Message from @Nester

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2017-10-06 18:38:44 UTC  

Shouldn't go farther than that

2017-10-06 18:40:11 UTC  

is it like Atta boy Atavisionary

2017-10-06 18:40:17 UTC  

or Atavism, Atavism-visionary

2017-10-06 18:40:20 UTC  

I actually have a lot more respect for milo now. Well, except he didn't write any of his own shit. still, he was legit interacting with all parts of the alt right in a basically sincere way

2017-10-06 18:40:34 UTC  

Why would you respect this faggot?

2017-10-06 18:40:48 UTC  

cause he mainstreamed shit

2017-10-06 18:40:53 UTC  

is the idea

2017-10-06 18:40:54 UTC  

Nothing he says is interesting

2017-10-06 18:40:58 UTC  

lol, nuance and degree is important

2017-10-06 18:40:59 UTC  

And he's a bad person

2017-10-06 18:41:11 UTC  

read Jonathan Haidt's Righteous Mind @atavisionary

2017-10-06 18:41:14 UTC  

you'll like it

2017-10-06 18:41:29 UTC  

ya, he was only concerned about building his brand, but he connected moldbug to the president

2017-10-06 18:41:38 UTC  

yes, I saw that

2017-10-06 18:41:51 UTC  

I will look into it @fallot

2017-10-06 18:42:16 UTC  

he connected moldbug to the president. Like wow.

2017-10-06 18:42:18 UTC  

Moldbug is worse than Milo

2017-10-06 18:42:30 UTC  

but I see your point

2017-10-06 18:43:32 UTC  
2017-10-06 18:43:53 UTC  

he is not wrong, the left is proof of that.

2017-10-06 18:48:03 UTC  

"Simplicity is the cure for violence. For example, if we postulate an imaginary oracle that could predict the outcome of any battle, we could eliminate war. The predicted loser would have no incentive but to concede to the demands of the predicted winner. But since there is no such oracle, the only way to avert violence is to define an algorithm simple enough for both sides and an independent third party to execute with minimal chance of disagreement, and endow that third party with whatever Power it needs to enforce that result – and, ideally, no more.
The word “violence” demands clarification. Violence does not always involve bloodshed. The point of violence is for side A to use “any means necessary” to convince side B that resisting some outcome is counterproductive. Thus we consider robbery a violent crime, even if no one is hurt.
Similarly, a battle may be resolved by agreeing to fight not with real guns but with paintball guns, and respecting the outcome. Or by setting rules that reduce but do not eliminate the physical damage of battle, and have no significant effect on the result. Symbolic and restricted violence of this sort is common in primitive humans, and indeed is the general rule in the animal kingdom. In general the goal of symbolic violence is to figure out who would win in an unrestricted fight to the death. As long as the results of these processes are identical, there is no incentive for either party to deviate from the symbolic convention. And even if they are not quite identical, the parallel may be good enough.

2017-10-06 18:48:06 UTC  

Another symbolic way to resolve a battle, for instance, might be to simply count the number of soldiers who show up on each side. We see here the roots of democracy, which once factions emerge – as, the Federalists notwithstanding, they always do – is a sort of regularized, symbolic civil war. It is no surprise that when you try to impose democracy on a country in which some faction believes that a real civil war will produce better results, the symbolic restraints tend to evaporate.
Therefore, when we define Power as ambiguity and ambiguity as complexity, we can consider the decline from the elaborate precision of medieval law, with its principle of rex sub lege, to 20th-century democracy and Holmesian “legal realism,” as a self-reinforcing complexity collapse – a process surely not unfamiliar to any programmer."

2017-10-06 18:48:11 UTC  

lol

2017-10-06 18:54:56 UTC  

sounds reasonable to me, especiallyy the part about symbolic violence being the norm in intra sexual competition within a species

2017-10-06 18:58:35 UTC  

the problem with that is the conception "symbolic violence" to begin with

2017-10-06 18:58:45 UTC  

which is just talmudic logic

2017-10-06 19:00:06 UTC  

No it isn't you dalit

2017-10-06 19:00:09 UTC  

You are retarded

2017-10-06 19:01:32 UTC  

male animals which are competing with females regularly compete in non-lethal way

2017-10-06 19:01:42 UTC  

competing for females

2017-10-06 19:01:58 UTC  

it is, in fact, a norm

2017-10-06 19:03:09 UTC  

No, dallot said it is talmudic logic, the animal kingdom is a satanic delusion

2017-10-06 19:03:43 UTC  

Animals don't exist. That's just Jew lies

2017-10-06 19:03:59 UTC  

well, thanks for that insight

2017-10-06 19:04:15 UTC  

Only tendies and Koran and brown people really exist

2017-10-06 19:04:18 UTC  

only jews exist

2017-10-06 19:04:24 UTC  

Yes

2017-10-06 19:04:27 UTC  

well only jews and their plots

2017-10-06 19:04:45 UTC  

In all seriousness it's a good observation

2017-10-06 19:05:01 UTC  

Where's that from

2017-10-06 19:05:21 UTC  

ask nester