Message from @Hagel

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2017-10-11 03:33:08 UTC  

@Hagel Another thing: I think a system and a people are coupled in many ways

2017-10-11 03:33:34 UTC  

Like, a good system will improve the people, and a good people will employ a good system

2017-10-11 03:34:28 UTC  

Yeah

2017-10-11 03:34:51 UTC  

Since we don't have wars or plagues anymore, it's important to keep R vs K breeding from going out of control with a system

2017-10-11 03:35:10 UTC  

But no system will be a people's salvation. Systems only emerge from good and strong rulers who can enforce and create them

2017-10-11 03:35:32 UTC  

how do you propose we go looking for strong rulers

2017-10-11 03:35:35 UTC  

That's why a good ruler may keep a paradise while he rules, but after he has died, the only lasting mark that he can leave is upon the people's nature itself (genetics and memetics), improving the chance for another good ruler to emerge in the future

2017-10-11 03:35:39 UTC  

We don't

2017-10-11 03:35:49 UTC  

everyone tries to fight for what he wants, that's how it works and that's how it will work

2017-10-11 03:35:59 UTC  

Fighting can be done economically or physically violently

2017-10-11 03:36:02 UTC  

or purely memetically

2017-10-11 03:36:12 UTC  

let me rephrase

2017-10-11 03:36:23 UTC  

As an individual, you find and follow a good leader, or you become one yourself

2017-10-11 03:37:02 UTC  

that sounds like a form of democracy

2017-10-11 03:37:19 UTC  

just substitute "vote for" in place of "follow"

2017-10-11 03:37:21 UTC  

Democracy is a cease fire agreement

2017-10-11 03:37:49 UTC  

What I described is more similar to a form of anarchism

2017-10-11 03:38:07 UTC  

which is always what you have anyway, people just pretend like it isn't the case

2017-10-11 03:39:38 UTC  

It is like democracy I suppose, but the resource is might and intellect, not quantity of followers

2017-10-11 03:39:49 UTC  

Quality of followers starts mattering too, not only quantity

2017-10-11 03:40:07 UTC  

It is like democracy in that every system is an arena for conflict, including democracy

2017-10-11 04:01:17 UTC  

sounds like anarcho-capitalism

2017-10-11 04:01:44 UTC  

anarcho-capitalism, to me, seems like an express route to third-world status

2017-10-11 04:09:59 UTC  

Anarcho capitalism agrees on non physical conflict

2017-10-11 04:19:14 UTC  

It also claims that no ruler should enforce taxation

2017-10-11 04:19:22 UTC  

I would enforce quite a few things

2017-10-11 12:42:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/367653092390338560/IMG_20171011_084125.jpg

2017-10-11 13:32:41 UTC  

@Mother time to ratchet up the amount of hate speech then.

2017-10-11 13:33:58 UTC  

AGREED

2017-10-11 13:34:49 UTC  

BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT THIS SERVER GETS DELETED

2017-10-11 13:35:06 UTC  

DISCORD WANTS BLOOD (AND POZZED SPERM)

2017-10-11 13:36:22 UTC  

@Death Strike's Bat THESE LITTLE HITLERS IN EPU ARE SO PROUD OF A GUY THERE THAT MADE THIS ATROCITY https://pew.tube/user/Tactical_BowlCut/T3EnF07