Message from @Exilarch
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those 14 books must've contradicted their platform of liberte, egalite, farternite
I discuss my thoughts pretty openly and I don't pull punches, but I don't like to do it at church anymore
primarily because they control the venue
weak
I'll happily discuss my thoughts with mormons at a neutral location
do it at church
so Joseph Smith received revelation from The Almighty?
do you believe that?
Joseph Smith was smart enough to know people are dumb and easily influenced
which is why @Exilarch should enforce his views at his local gatherings
lol. People who've been taught to worship human beings are dumb.
then Mormonism needs to be drastically reinvented.
Mormons don't worship Joseph Smith
yes I believe that @spacetimed
no, mormons worship the doctrine of Spencer W. Kimball (who contradicted every prophet before him hugely) and also the BYU honor code
and Mitt Romney and general conservadad republicanism
what actual God might have revealed to Joseph Smith or Brigham Young, these are of secondary importance, and if they contradict the former, are bitterly stigmatized
as far as I can tell, FLDS are correct
Do mormons believe his story?
there is an official version printed in every copy of the mormon scriptures
but if you actually dig up the old cursive written documents by joseph smith, there were other details added and removed
man.
there were like 4 different versions he said, all were roughly the same but slightly different descriptors were used in one of them, and the modern church zeroed in on it and decided, "THAT is what Joseph saw!"
and what did his journal say
so he was a nut
it's called the Joseph Smith Papers, you can just google it even
why would i even bother
but off the top of my head, it said the gods appeared to him in a pillar of flame, old testament style, not a pillar of light like the LDS say
just a small detail really, I could reread it again
I actually believe Joseph Smith entirely - to the point that I am forced to disbelieve my church
which is rather ironic
why have you not taken control of the cult you are apart of yet? @Exilarch
Are you an atheist @Parasite
well, because I do not believe it works like that
sounds like your local church is full of dummies
and you are the smart one
they all are, I move all over the country and go to mormon churches while I travel
it's not like it is a local phenomenon
no i am not atheist