Message from @Exilarch

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2017-12-28 21:03:34 UTC  

they're just going to try to pump up the bubble before it crashes

2017-12-28 21:03:36 UTC  

the fact that the doings of people with billions of dollars is of no interest to you is really telling

2017-12-28 21:03:36 UTC  

and get in on it

2017-12-28 21:03:38 UTC  

keep your money

2017-12-28 21:04:06 UTC  

what they are doing is not even open to the general public yet, and thus probably cannot be used for what you just described

2017-12-28 21:04:28 UTC  

they said they don't have a strategy but will open a trading desk for it as customers want it

2017-12-28 21:04:39 UTC  

exactly

2017-12-28 21:04:57 UTC  

there is a ramification to that, I spelled it out earlier

2017-12-28 21:05:00 UTC  

surely you missed it

2017-12-28 21:05:02 UTC  

it's too volatile for them themselves to invest in

2017-12-28 21:05:19 UTC  

that's a great misunderstanding

2017-12-28 21:05:29 UTC  

volatility does not preclude investment

2017-12-28 21:06:01 UTC  

the problem is it's not real, there's nothing backing it, and fraud / laundering is so easy

2017-12-28 21:06:07 UTC  

is that what you believe, that people with near infinite money are only investing in index funds and treasury bonds? who told you that?

2017-12-28 21:06:15 UTC  

if I steal your bitcoins, I don't have to sell them.

2017-12-28 21:06:19 UTC  

I can just delete them

2017-12-28 21:06:32 UTC  

true, but if I steal your gold coins I could just melt them

2017-12-28 21:06:40 UTC  

and dump it down a storm drain

2017-12-28 21:06:48 UTC  

yes but gold is much harder to steal

2017-12-28 21:06:52 UTC  

is it?

2017-12-28 21:07:15 UTC  

there's arguments for and against that

2017-12-28 21:07:18 UTC  

given it is a physical thing and not an easily laundered / dirty currency.

2017-12-28 21:07:47 UTC  

NOT MANY MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO SHORT BTC

2017-12-28 21:07:49 UTC  

if the bitcoin you are buying has ever touched an illegal transaction

2017-12-28 21:07:54 UTC  

you are totally fucked

2017-12-28 21:07:58 UTC  

same with dollars

2017-12-28 21:08:11 UTC  

given that there is a record of the bitcoin attached to the bitcoin....

2017-12-28 21:08:19 UTC  

PROBLEM: NOT KNOWING WHEN THE IRRATIONAL HYPE WILL DIE DOWN PROPELLING SOYCOIN

2017-12-28 21:08:21 UTC  

despite your list of reasons bitcoin should have a value of $0/coin, it has current value of $17,000/coin. Obviously there is something you do not know, or else you would be rich right now. The test - your personal test - is to see if you will admit that to yourself or reassure yourself with your own misunderstandings

2017-12-28 21:08:33 UTC  

people are stupid

2017-12-28 21:08:44 UTC  

yes they are, so why doesn't your financial strategy factor for that?

2017-12-28 21:08:49 UTC  

BITCOIN IS DRIVEN BY STRAIGHT BEHAVORIAL ECONOMICS. LITTLE ELSE.

2017-12-28 21:08:57 UTC  

HOW DO YOU MEASURE THIS?

2017-12-28 21:09:03 UTC  

they won't let you cash out at a fast enough rate from each exchange to make money

2017-12-28 21:09:28 UTC  

YES @Death Strike's Bat MAKING IT ILLIQUID

2017-12-28 21:09:31 UTC  

from short term investments.

2017-12-28 21:09:35 UTC  

so?

2017-12-28 21:09:35 UTC  

they don't have the liquid

2017-12-28 21:09:38 UTC  

and they physically can't

2017-12-28 21:09:43 UTC  

real estate is illiquid, yet people love to invest in it

2017-12-28 21:09:46 UTC  

given the extrmeely slow transaction time