Message from @Hagel
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The whole white guilt thing isn't intrinsically communist and for that matter feeling that guilt doesn't mean they want a communist society
lots of ideas for how to take it and distribute it
Hey there
Their ideas trickle down
Is it a coincidence that watered down communist ideas emerged a few decades after they started their work in universities?
are Communists the absolute origin of that
There is a lineage between Marxism and it, yes
The books themselves were all written by Marxists / communists
They're available online
ok and there's a lineage between Catholicism and communism, does that mean all communism is Christianity
What lineage is that?
well for one the Augustinian narrative that Marx
The workers revolt as secular eschaton
That's not a lineage, that's them interacting
Or how about equality in the image of god
Marx wrote books and made followers. These followers then wrote books of their own and taught at universities
That is a direct lineage
Marx and his ideas didn't come out of a vacuum
Don't make ad hoc conclusions here
I never claimed emergence from vacuum
someone else could have been the peak of the wave
Here's a fun documentary
Equality before god and equality in Marxism is, I believe, convergent evolution
Marx hated god
He was a misotheist
that's not important
quite frankly
you have to put white guilt and much of communism into a much larger and more complex context
So shit like racial guilt is not really evidence of working class stiffs *wanting to rise up & overthrow the borgouise and replace capitalism with Communism.*
I already told you that they decided to obfuscate and separate their ideas
And that the ideas are watered down the further from the source they are
Ok and a bunch of white people who feel guilty about their racial identity aren't necessarily going to want to resolve that by installing communism
I didn't say that they would want to, either
I'm not making outrageous claims
They were a very effective think tank which employed a strategy of not providing a target for their opponents
and of giving people a smorgösbord of ideas that are more easily digestible on their own, but which they hope will lead to their desired outcome
It's a hydra
you challenged my statement that `a global revolution of workers installing proletariat rule' is never going to happen.`
It's not going to happen,