Message from @AutumnFire

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2017-10-18 03:39:22 UTC  

LOL

2017-10-18 03:39:33 UTC  

its a really basic concept and im actually shocked you do not understand

2017-10-18 03:39:46 UTC  

>you can be run over by a train and killed, but not be dead - @AutumnFire , current year

2017-10-18 03:40:19 UTC  

so there are many gods, and you can chose to believe any number of them. atheist is a term meaning that you have no god at all. just because you dont believe in all gods does not make you an atheist, because belief in one god makes you a theist

2017-10-18 03:40:20 UTC  

that is called hte dunning kruger effect my friend, and you just won the award

2017-10-18 03:40:36 UTC  

the·ism
[ˈTHēˌizəm]
NOUN
belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal relation to his creatures. Compare with deism.

2017-10-18 03:40:48 UTC  

if you have a belief in a god

2017-10-18 03:40:50 UTC  

any individual god

2017-10-18 03:40:52 UTC  

you are a theist

2017-10-18 03:40:56 UTC  

and therefore not an atheist

2017-10-18 03:41:32 UTC  

theist is a difinative statement

2017-10-18 03:41:38 UTC  

meaning that you hold a belief

2017-10-18 03:41:46 UTC  

you do not have to hold ALL beliefs in order to have a belief

2017-10-18 03:42:00 UTC  

you cannot believe in thor, and believe in jesus, and still be a theist

2017-10-18 03:42:12 UTC  

you're saying that in particular context someone is an atheist in the frame of a particular god

2017-10-18 03:42:19 UTC  

but it does not remove their belief in a different god

2017-10-18 03:42:39 UTC  

also, no real scottsman means that the qualifiers for something in particular qualify what the person is

2017-10-18 03:42:53 UTC  

so saying that someone is only a theist if they believe in a particular god is a no true scotssman

2017-10-18 03:43:58 UTC  

you need more hitchens and dawkins in your life

2017-10-18 03:44:11 UTC  

Ive read books from both of them

2017-10-18 03:44:30 UTC  

dawkins is a bit retarded for his rejection of group altruism as a role in society as a positive effect

2017-10-18 03:44:40 UTC  

which pretty much every evolutionary biologist accepts

2017-10-18 03:44:54 UTC  

but

2017-10-18 03:45:14 UTC  

the difference is that I actually understand concepts on a level where i can actually criticize them by synthesizing information

2017-10-18 03:45:18 UTC  

you just take it as doctrine

2017-10-18 03:45:37 UTC  

try reading some books that don't just serve as a confirmation bias for you

2017-10-18 03:45:42 UTC  

LOL

2017-10-18 03:45:50 UTC  

do you even understand dunning kruger?

2017-10-18 03:46:00 UTC  

you like little baby.....

2017-10-18 03:46:40 UTC  

its funny because thats such a basical psychological / philosophical point that is usually used by people who have no understanding of dunning-kruger

2017-10-18 03:46:46 UTC  

please

2017-10-18 03:46:49 UTC  

explain menlos slave

2017-10-18 03:46:54 UTC  

and explain how you are actually that same person

2017-10-18 03:47:03 UTC  

meno's slave

2017-10-18 03:47:04 UTC  

&

2017-10-18 03:47:15 UTC  

try and see how you are basically the same thing

2017-10-18 03:48:10 UTC  

You are basically like a greek slave who thinks he understands a concept, but doesnt really

2017-10-18 03:48:23 UTC  

thats the tl;dr version because i know you probably arent going to be able to conprehend the texts

2017-10-18 03:52:15 UTC  

yes was just resading it now, philosophy is cancer tbh... but if i understand what i just quickly browsed through tis bascially that people can be led to the correct answer, and that somehow proves they had the right answer all along?

2017-10-18 03:53:38 UTC  

The problem is that you don't have the logical foundation to understand a lot of these concepts. Like dunning-kruger, which is a psychological concept used by people in arguments who really don't want to be troubled with having to logically explain their argument, so they just point out that there exists something in where people have a cognitive bias, with a massive lack of proof. It's the "I am very smart" version of calling someone a Nazi.

2017-10-18 03:53:53 UTC  

On your original point