but there are plenty of cases where clearly unarmed people are shot

that is almost ALL police "murders"

because they were not complying

and they had a reasonable fear for their life

okay you guys dont realize he is just trying to practice his debating skills for a upcoming event

non-compliance =/= has a gun

You know fists work right?

uhhh

non-compliance == greater threat == higher chance of resisting == higher chance of having a weapon

resistance =/= having a weapon

@casualgardener No one said that

The fuck yall niggas on

stop strawmanning

you said it

no one is fucking saying that

Stupid typical white niggas lmao

Chance of beating the cop into a pulp as well

@casualgardener No I did not. Please quote where I said that non compliance means they have a gun

Yall white niggas hide behind yall keyboards yall wouldnt say this shit to a real nigga in the flesh

@casualgardener You are like a logical fallacy machine

you said it has a higher chance of having a weapon

Pussy niggas lmao

higher chance =/= absolutely has

false equivelancy

pay attention

@fuzzysocks4142 Because I'm not fucking retarded

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what im advocating for is, only assume they have a gun if theres direct evidence they have a gun

don't rely on these shorthand probabilities

?

@casualgardener If someone reaches for their pants to pull out a gun you have about 0.25 seconds to save your life

If you tell someone who you believe is a threat not to reach for their pockets

and they reach for their pockets

yeah thats fine!

there is reason to believe your life is in danger

because they did not comply

so shooting them is justified

thats not what happens though! im talking about other circumstances

You have right to hold them at gunpoint

okay, the vast minority?

And shoot