Message from @Ideology
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Okay wat....
Being a male, but liking to do more "feminine" things
That's fine
I'm sorry but how does this relate back to the original topic of transgederism?
But to go ahead and "change your gender" in the process
What are we debating about?
wait keep going i see where your going
That's an issue.
Because by changing your gender
You're stating you're part of that group
You know their experiences
You can do what they do
No matter what
Hmmm
It's the same thing with races and ethnicities
that's an interesting way to put it
I'm Latino
The difference I would see there is transgeder people do face simmilar discrimination to women
If you look at studies after they transition they face simmilar harrasement as women
And there is a level of solidarity between diffrent "opressed groups"
When you get breast implants and a vagina surgery
You are treated like a woman
you have the same experiences, or simmilar experiences to a woman
And cover yourself with makeup, it's no wonder a man will think you're female
can I debate this fag now
Frito can I detour for this dude?
Hold on
I'll add you as a freind and we can continue later?
He needs to learn to wait
lol fair enough
Here is my final point
I'll wait it's fine
okay
Men and Women are equal in regards to worth. Biologically-speaking they are different, and that will cause them to act differently, experience different things, and ect. The most we should do as a society is focus on the "individual", not whether they are male and female. Because when you attempt to "join a group" like that, it destroys the experiences of those you're attempting to join. No longer is it females being harassed, it's females AND transgender males, and that takes away from the females who had to go through it alone
Well I guess I'll take issue with the idea that you must fit a group perfectly to bit part of the group. The experience of a group as broad as woman varies amongst different races classes and etc. You'd have to deconstruct the meaning of the idea of women and tell me what specifcally about the trans woman experiences disqualifies them from this group.
ESPECIALLY since the man CHOSE to be defined as a "woman"
If I as a Latino tried to relate to the black population and call myself "black", that would be an insult to them
Yes but you are a minority population
Because my experiences have no correlation to what they endure