Message from @Shitford
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He really liked some motherfuckers, that's for sure.
Back on topic, it's fucking sick.
Well he was right about the oedipus complex
Yes, but of all the things to name them, why would he make them all pertain to sexual acts?
Especially if it has to do with CHILDREN DEVELOPING?
He saw the body as a pretty damn important part of psychology and the idea of cognition wasn't really prevalent at his time.
He was physical with his ideas instead of metaphysical like the idea of cognition today
That's understandable, but why wouldn't he name them as `Consumption`, `Expulsion`, and `Desire`?
The oral stage was consumption basically
That's what I meant.
It makes no sense to give a deeply sexual name to non-sexual events unless you explicitly have a fetish for those events.
Again he identified consumption with insatiability as a child
Not that it's correct
But it is what he thought
About the sexual parts I would have to dig up my memory
I think the phallic stage was penis envy
Wasn't there not just penis *envy*, but also penis *aggression* and penis *compensation*?
(I haven't studied Freud as hard as I probably should've before making these statements. I'm assuming phallic aggression is sexual frustration and/or the desire to rape and that phallic compensation is self-explanatory.)
He used penis envy to describe woman's behavior
I don't think he was a pervert though
Just by the title, the idea of "penis envy" seems like a very accurate description of the main principle behind female homosexuality as well as bullshit such as "female-to-male transgenderism".
And phallic aggression is about puberty yes
Where the desire to reproduce comes into mind which makes you feel weird at first
causing frustration
Would it be bad if the beginning of puberty in a developing male DIDN'T involve being confused shitless?
I think he said that it causes you to be confused shitless
Because you have yet to adapt to it
Like the first time you start getting erections
Mhm, so does that mean, according to Freud, not experiencing angst in your early teen years means you failed to go through puberty? Is it problematic if somebody *didn't* experience disturbance upon achieving their first erection?
Probably how he would interpret that
That was his style
To say because of x stage
He is called the father of psychology because of his observations with patients and relating it to a specific cause which modern psychologists do today but with a better understanding
I already knew that. The reason I started this discussion was because I was suspecting Freud was a diddler. (or at least a closeted diddler)
In other words his views are a stepping stone
Well being a surgeon doesn't mean you like cutting people up lol
he did out of research not pleasure is what I am saying
That makes sense, yet I still can't wrap my head around why he couldn't come up with ANY names for the early-life urges of consumption, expulsion & excitement that didn't involve cocks at all.
Well there were biblical words for that
But that was not the point of his studies
Are we having a debate about if freud was a pedophile?