Message from @Mord

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2018-10-04 20:57:28 UTC  

^

2018-10-04 20:57:35 UTC  

it's more for hiring practice though

2018-10-04 20:58:54 UTC  

@agag you're telling me that I can choose not to serve black people and the government will not come shut down my business, take my money or imprison me for doing so?

2018-10-04 20:59:04 UTC  

This is false.

2018-10-04 20:59:12 UTC  

because last I checked they do that

2018-10-04 20:59:18 UTC  

so freedom of association does not exist

2018-10-04 20:59:59 UTC  

@NormieCamo no, Congress has the exclusive right to regulate commerce and anti-discrimination laws like the Civil Rights Act fall under that

2018-10-04 21:00:37 UTC  

if congress regulates who I can associate with, I do not have freedom of association

2018-10-04 21:00:43 UTC  

when alabama tried to make the NAACP turn over membership lists the SCOTUS ruled that they didn't have to do that

2018-10-04 21:00:46 UTC  

"Immunity from state scrutiny of petitioner's membership lists is here so related to the right of petitioner's members to pursue their lawful private interests privately and to associate freely with others in doing so as to come within the protection of the Fourteenth Amendment"

2018-10-04 21:01:21 UTC  

congress has the right to regulate private businesses

2018-10-04 21:01:40 UTC  

yes it does, but that means by definition that it is not free association

2018-10-04 21:01:49 UTC  

lt has to do with what's called inter-state commerce @NormieCamo

2018-10-04 21:01:54 UTC  

you don't believe in free association if you support the 14th

2018-10-04 21:02:22 UTC  

Literally everything is inter-state commerce, and if it is inter-state commerce, it is regulated at the federal level.

2018-10-04 21:02:38 UTC  

this isn't the 14th amendment

2018-10-04 21:02:50 UTC  

when Congress tried to pass the Civil RIghts Act in the 19th century under the 14th it was overturned

2018-10-04 21:03:24 UTC  

There was one case where a guy didn't want blacks in his grocery store and the winning argument was that, since the products in the store are frmo out of state, it is inter-state commerce and therefore must be regulated by the Feds

2018-10-04 21:03:48 UTC  

right my bad, I mean the civil rights act

2018-10-04 21:03:59 UTC  

if it has a substantial effect on interstate commerce, then Congress can regulate it

2018-10-04 21:04:12 UTC  

The Civil Rights act affects inter-state commerce

2018-10-04 21:04:30 UTC  

However,

2018-10-04 21:04:46 UTC  

businesses do still have the right to refuse service to someone

2018-10-04 21:04:57 UTC  

but it can't be on the basis of a "protected class"

2018-10-04 21:05:22 UTC  

civil rights wont be overturned unless the govt drastically changes, and exchange of power from chosenites to europeans happens again

2018-10-04 21:05:45 UTC  

Civil rights being overturned will never happen

2018-10-04 21:05:47 UTC  

civil rights won't be overturned because it's constitutionally solid

2018-10-04 21:06:03 UTC  

constitution is just a document, and white demographic displacement is a serious problem

2018-10-04 21:06:13 UTC  

“just a document”

2018-10-04 21:06:27 UTC  

The constitution is what this country stands for

2018-10-04 21:06:29 UTC  

constitution is the supreme law in this country

2018-10-04 21:06:38 UTC  

civic nationalism is not tenable

2018-10-04 21:06:39 UTC  

SCOTUS doesn't exist to legislate or be activists

2018-10-04 21:06:42 UTC  

it's not useful

2018-10-04 21:06:42 UTC  

yes it is

2018-10-04 21:06:48 UTC  

It is tenable

2018-10-04 21:07:00 UTC  

ethnic and racial rioting proves you wrong

2018-10-04 21:07:02 UTC  

as well as tensions

2018-10-04 21:07:06 UTC  

and displacement of the white majority

2018-10-04 21:07:09 UTC  

and hatred of them in media

2018-10-04 21:07:11 UTC  

hollywood