Message from @Turia
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If Christ saves those who believe in him
You need both works and faith kek
and the fruit of the saved are good deeds
then they will do good deeds
hey man turia man
Romans 10:14-15
**Romans 10:14-15 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**
```Dust
<14> How then shall they call on him, in whom they have not believed? Or how shall they believe him, of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear, without a preacher? <15> And how shall they preach unless they be sent, as it is written: How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, of them that bring glad tidings of good things! ```
if they are saved
What do these verses mean
to you
sola fide theoretically implies psychopathic mass murderers who have faith get saved
you can't have faith if you do that
?
implying that these people dont lie
You’re saying I can’t believe in god and kill somebody ?
Delusion
what if they really did though?
no
@Turia Why did you ignore this:
James 2:14-26
**James 2:14-26 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<14> What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? <15> If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, <16> And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? <17> Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. <18> Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. <19> Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. <20> But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? <21> Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? <22> Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? <23> And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. <24> Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. <25> Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? <26> For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. ```
that's rediculous
......
difference between killing in a war or self defense and murder
Romans 1:20 as well
**Romans 1:20 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
```Dust
<20> Ever since the creation of the world his eternal power and divine nature, invisible though they are, have been understood and seen through the things he has made. So they are without excuse; ```
Killing is always immoral
that's impossible
There is no difference outside of circumstance
since God commands people to kill in the bible
says the cia fan
lmao
God literally cannot be immoral
Murder is an unjustified killing
^
This is a straw man of an argument
Those were justified killings
dude, you can't bitch about le killing is bad
lol
then support the cia
buzzword