i'm using that joke, sorry, i'll credit you though

the way you make a system last is you focus on the people

real things

No you can't, human morality doesn't allow it.

tangible

not abstractions

human morality is a matter of good breeding

immorality*

@agag I was thinking of the Great Depression. And 2008. And other more modern issues.

good people produce good people on avg, eugenics can breed a better society

Oh, like the forefather's goal wasn't to focus on the people?

we know many degenerate traits are inherited

it wasn't

It never lasts.

they focused on abstractions

which they thought would help

you must focus on real tangible verifiable things

When you make a working system/find one that was previously used, tell me.

this is what third positionism is

our economics are not based on arbitrary axioms

That has to last.

@Chilliam Ace but you blame that on the currency no longer being backed by gold and/or silver, but you still see very severe economic downturns despite having gold/silver currency

and great depression happened under the gold standard

@RemoteBeef092 National Socialism

with a racialist ascedancy principle

that would last

Like that hasn't been tried and failed.

as long as you kill off your enemies

who try to destroy it

Immorality.

It didn't fail

it was attacked and destroyed

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] I've already strongly doubted the 'nature' part on the nature-nurture debate. Certainly, things such as intelligence and mental problems are inheritable, i sincerely doubt eugenics plays a stronger part than nurture.

there's a difference between a system failing on its own accord

@agag Yes, but it also happened due to the banks improperly using interest rates.

and being attacked and destroyed

Like in 2008.

Now you're tipping the scale in the government's immorality.

Which you failed to account for in your argument ;D @agag

Especially on morality