Message from @Ben
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It all comes back down to being subjective.
that's not an argument
you're just saying outright "lol I don't care because it's my opinion"
Without God you have an infinite regress of subjectivity
btw calling something subjective is an objective claim about subjectivity, which imo undermines the ontological potency of subjectivist arguments
nothing is subjective
that is a meme
Empiricism can be embedded within a greater science, which can be embedded in a greater science, within a greater science, etc.
So just out of curiosity, is your theist belief the belief that god is the cosmos?
No
To me, He is the Unmoved Mover
Can you elaborate?
^ the 9 point argument I posted
He is the anchor to the causal chain
He exists outside the natural world, He is the unactualized actualizer.
He initiated all movement. The Unmoved Mover.
God bless America
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Well fuck me I guess I just became a Theist
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lol
why is ezra mod not senior mod
I thought he was senior mod
good
Well the more I think about it the more it makes more sense because that this God would exist outside of the space of reality since It created the space, so it doesn't have to follow the standard laws of Physics that we understand or try to understand now.
Correct.
Since you can't have an infinite explosion and regression of the universe like some would theorize to the beginning of *our* universe now, something had to have started the space
yes
you're getting there
so what god is that
This thing could bend its own physics and think itself into existence and we wouldn't be able to explain it with our own physics, because he created the space that those physics exist and he's outside of that space
@GrandxSlam *trinity
*trinity
Correct, you are making the right inferences.
who knows
So once that's settled, the question becomes which religion is correct?
God is eternal