@Gen_Boi Hitler is an example of that actually

He didn't stick to any Christian morality or norms

he just wrote his own book of what is right or wrong according to him

and gained popularity

It's a bit like coming around and acting like your personal God

@Logical-Scholar and people who created religion did the same

@Logical-Scholar hitler did what he believed to be right. i don't see a problem in that

hahah okay

i ofcourse don't agree with his actions

@Kierketard No one can deny that someone who can do stuff like what he did to that woman should ever be able to get to positions as high as SCOTUS

but that doesn't make him evil to me

I mean he was just one example

Stalin as well he had no moral code to stick to

The thing is if we have Christian leaders we can easily know when they lie

for example any Democrat who claims to be Christian but protects anti-Christian laws

like Roe V. Wade

we know they lie about their faiths for popularity

so we know not to trust them

@Logical-Scholar He didn't gain popularity through his books tho

@squash1
1. We do not know the house
2. The witnesses claimed by her refute her
3. We do not know the time
4. She's refusing to give evidence
5. etc.

ultimately the goal humans have is achieving piece of mind. everything someone does is to achieve piece of mind. and everyone has their own way of doing it, wether it is through religion or being a hard worker

@squash1 Have you read 'To Kill A Mockingbird?' Do you remember the lesson in the novel?

@squash1 Not my point

She has outright refused to give the doctor's notes without getting what she wants.

If a Christian leader is constantly devout to his own morality it's easier to trust him in general

than some atheist whom we have no idea how he forms his morals

@Logical-Scholar would you trust a non religious candidate even if you would agree with his politics?

Not easily

I may dislike him but I can vote for him

And that's because

Kavanaugh has had 6 thorough background checks, and I believe at least 20 of the chick's friends have been interviewed between Congress, FBI, and the news agencies diggin' dirt. @squash1

in a lot of electoral systems in what you consider democratic countries or democracies

@Logical-Scholar you're making lots of great points

@squash1 i can definitely deny this

there is a tendency to only be so and so much choice

In Great Britain for example

i would want Brett in the supreme court even if he did grope Ford

Who doesnt want a chad in the scotus

you can vote LibDem, Conservative or Labour or else you won't win shit

^^^^^

in USA