Message from @Ben
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In other words, Atheist morality can be based on the discovery of meaning, which can also lead to the proof of religious beliefs being right
Regardless philosphy will never change someones mind, I just want to call you gay
Philosophy changed my mind
1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore the universe has a cause.
4. There cannot be an infinite regress of causes.
5. There cannot be a circular causation.
6. Therefore the universe was caused (either directly or indirectly) by an uncaused cause (i.e that had no beginning).
7. The uncaused cause must transcend space and time, and be sentient.
8. But to say a sentient being that transcends space and time brought the universe into existence, is to say that God exists.
9. Therefore God exists.
#1 should be Love Isreal
I completely agree with that except for the point of sentience; a being of ultimate power doesnt need sentience to create or will @SweetieSquad
Where is #1?
Fix it.
@SweetieSquad
why does rule 7 have to apply?
@Gen_Boi The being that creates must exist outside of the universe to create it
The universe we live in contains the laws of physics we know now
Time and space are within those physics
why does it have to be sentient tho?
It doesnt
@TheEthicalAtheist yes it is impossible for you to prove something definitively
so?
why is 2 + 2 four?
In my belief, the being that creates isnt sentient, nor created sentient life with the purpose of it being sentient with meaning
@Gen_Boi this is from vril
oo= omniscience and omnipotence, p= perfection, oo=p, contingency requires potential, potential requires potential for potential, self actualizer required for potential for potential to be actualized. oo= God. Perfection - state, or quality of being free or as free as possible from all flaws or defects. Contingency - the absence of necessity; the fact of being so without having to be so. Potential - "might chance to happen or not to happen", and a stronger sense, to indicate how something could be done well. Self Actualizer - the medium in which you recognize "the full realization of one's potential"
don't get it m8
He thinks the economny did better than Americas. I did the math.
Which doesnt all add up in the first place
it makes sense to me!
@Weissest you are a retarded NPC/female, please go commit uninstall discord
If you know how to read I already told you I'm not female.
a perfect being, omiscience and omnipotence, with the ability to be self actualizing would require it to be sentient, wouldnt it
@TheEthicalAtheist youre a fucking jew
gay jew retard
@NormieCamo why the h8 on females?
@Gen_Boi women are autistic
@TheEthicalAtheist you didnt have one either
faggot
<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***TheEthicalAtheist#4204 was banned***
no
this is an atheist free zone
wtf
no atheists allowed
This tbh but still I dont agree with sentience
listen m8 why would you ban someone for argumenting against you?
@Gen_Boi imma quote my boy Nietzsche on this