Atheism =/= Nihilism Sweetie

@TheEthicalAtheist it literally cant without a God

If there is no being higher than humans for your morality to come from there is no way it can be objective

If its just coming from people then its meaningless

Atheist morality can be based on the progression of humanity and the knowledge/discovery of more in the universe, possibly changing the Nihilistic thought that this meaningless rock is really meaningless

@TheEthicalAtheist not without a God

In other words, Atheist morality can be based on the discovery of meaning, which can also lead to the proof of religious beliefs being right

Regardless philosphy will never change someones mind, I just want to call you gay

Philosophy changed my mind

1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore the universe has a cause.
4. There cannot be an infinite regress of causes.
5. There cannot be a circular causation.
6. Therefore the universe was caused (either directly or indirectly) by an uncaused cause (i.e that had no beginning).
7. The uncaused cause must transcend space and time, and be sentient.
8. But to say a sentient being that transcends space and time brought the universe into existence, is to say that God exists.
9. Therefore God exists.

#1 should be Love Isreal

I completely agree with that except for the point of sentience; a being of ultimate power doesnt need sentience to create or will @SweetieSquad

Where is #1?

Fix it.

@SweetieSquad
why does rule 7 have to apply?

@Gen_Boi The being that creates must exist outside of the universe to create it

The universe we live in contains the laws of physics we know now

Time and space are within those physics

why does it have to be sentient tho?

It doesnt

@TheEthicalAtheist yes it is impossible for you to prove something definitively

so?

why is 2 + 2 four?

In my belief, the being that creates isnt sentient, nor created sentient life with the purpose of it being sentient with meaning

@Gen_Boi this is from vril
oo= omniscience and omnipotence, p= perfection, oo=p, contingency requires potential, potential requires potential for potential, self actualizer required for potential for potential to be actualized. oo= God. Perfection - state, or quality of being free or as free as possible from all flaws or defects. Contingency - the absence of necessity; the fact of being so without having to be so. Potential - "might chance to happen or not to happen", and a stronger sense, to indicate how something could be done well. Self Actualizer - the medium in which you recognize "the full realization of one's potential"

don't get it m8

It’s a bunch of balogna for the meaning of sentience

He thinks the economny did better than Americas. I did the math.

Which doesnt all add up in the first place

it makes sense to me!

@Weissest you are a retarded NPC/female, please go commit uninstall discord

If you know how to read I already told you I'm not female.

a perfect being, omiscience and omnipotence, with the ability to be self actualizing would require it to be sentient, wouldnt it

@TheEthicalAtheist youre a fucking jew

gay jew retard

@NormieCamo why the h8 on females?

@Gen_Boi women are autistic

@TheEthicalAtheist you didnt have one either

faggot

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